Agree, they’re not saying you are forbidden if you can meet the $100 million threshold (or whatever number it ultimately is) but how many schools will decide they can afford to go down the never ending rabbit hole? IMO, it won’t be much past the top 40.
Here comes the doomsday thread, sorry
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I agree. That’s the point I was trying to make to the poster saying ISU would be left out.
Yeah I think ISU is fine with this development. Again anything could change but based on the info we have it shouldn’t be an issue.
I still always wonder how you have time to be on here being an ER physician lol.
I'm a data scientist, so it makes sense how I just scroll CF forums throughout the day
I hate what-ifs, but just imagine where we'd be if Bruce Van de Velde had never been an Iowa State AD. He set us back two decades.
I see a 50-80 break off more viable than a 30 break off at this point because of the potential of a class action suit with the medium/small sized P4 programs against the others. I’m sure many of these TV execs and ADs would be worried about what might come out during the discovery portion if it got to that.
At some point this plays out in a courtroom right? How does it not if we get to the “doomsday” point?
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At some point this plays out in a courtroom right? How does it not if we get to the “doomsday” point?
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It will but not for the P4 and probably the next tier of leagues but the low major leagues are all losing their auto bids and probably sooner rather than later.
This ^
I watch probably 5x more sporting events than I ever did before mobile sports betting and if anything I'm probably underexaggerating that number.
I only work 2-3 days a week. When I’m working I also am forced to have my phone in my hand all day due to mobile heartbeat. I also have an insanely good class of residents this year so most of my day is paperwork unless there is a trauma or unusual presentation. On average I only actually see 6-8 patients, I wish I practiced medicine more it’s mostly just boring checking the mid level provider charts and approving nonsense.
You wouldn’t stay up late watching to see if UC Davis covers the 12 point spread against Long Beach State unless you have money on it? Haha.
As an ISU fan, alumni, sons soon to be alumni we have no illusions as to being included in the playoff on a regular basis. I love ISU sports and the university.
What concerns me about all of this crap is if we do have an extra special season here and there we won’t have a chance at the big prize.
I feel terrible for FSU. I wish their qb would have stayed healthy which would have prevented the current excuse as to why they weren’t chosen. But would would have been amazing is the absolute drama that would have happened if Texas or Alabama would have been left out. If anyone thinks it wouldn’t have been Texas getting the short end I don’t know what to tell you. There would have been absolutely no way in hell that the SEC would have been left out.
What concerns me about all of this crap is if we do have an extra special season here and there we won’t have a chance at the big prize.
I feel terrible for FSU. I wish their qb would have stayed healthy which would have prevented the current excuse as to why they weren’t chosen. But would would have been amazing is the absolute drama that would have happened if Texas or Alabama would have been left out. If anyone thinks it wouldn’t have been Texas getting the short end I don’t know what to tell you. There would have been absolutely no way in hell that the SEC would have been left out.
And this makes total sense for everyone. You want to be in the club, there's a minimum you need to invest and bring to the table. And it's not like they are going to hold on this fantasy of equal media revenue sharing.
People need to let go of this as a marginal adjustment to the equal revenue sharing conference model. The marginal value of a team into a conference based on media $/# of teams is irrelevant in this context.
The best business model for the big boys is this:
- The floor of investment/payment is $X - if you can do that, you can be in
- There are no or few limits to what you pay athletes
- Revenues are largely going to be merit-based
That way they are getting the marginal difference in viewership that having a team "in the club" brings, but not heavily subsidizing them. ****, Ohio State and Michigan are subsidizing everybody in the big 10 save for PSU and MAYBE Wisconsin. It isn't like the Big 10 teams are all a few degrees of difference around the per team average in value. Hell, Michigan, Ohio State and whatever other 10-12 teams you want to throw in there is a P2 league in value.
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I could see this happening with the next generation of local fans, but the casual fans that live in a pro sports city/not in Iowa or insert state, that will be a tougher sell. Alumni of the left behind schools in those markets will probably be less passionate about passing down their fandom to their kids.
I completely agree. I have 2 young kids and don't have a lot of discretionary income. I really don't get much time to watch sports like I used to. Even ISU games are hard to get time to watch, so watching other games really doesn't happen. I am being told that both the university and collective need my money to be competetive, but I really don't have the money to spend on this. The cost of everything is going up (tickets, donation levels, parking, etc) and I am also being asked to pay more.
FSU got completely FU**ED. The only way to remove the SEC-bias is to eliminate a committee. Put rules in place that say "conference champion gets in" or "top 3 conference spots get in". Otherwise we will forever see the BS we saw this year.
The economics of it might be interesting.
Say lower level pays $25M in media rights per school, but upper level pays $50M. If it only costs you $6-10M to be a part of the upper division, virtually everyone would try to be. The math says you must.
There's just not much meat on the bones of this proposal, if you can even call it one.
The sad thing is, we got 4 conf champs in: Michigan, Washington, Texas, and Bama. Undefeated FSU as a P5 champ shouldn’t have been excluded in any universe. Very disappointing.
The fatal flaw in the SEC/Big Ten going on their own is that it will turn college football from a national sport to a regional sport. Their audience will be the Midwest and the south and virtually no one else will have an interest. I won’t give a **** about it if ISU isn’t playing.
But. By that time the big money will all be in sports betting anyway and they won’t care that they destroyed college football for money.
Agree.
The Big 12 as the “3” in a P3 setup has been the goal and most plausible outcome since OUT occurred.
In reality it’s a P2+1, but being the less affluent “other guy” at the top is a role, and frankly not a step back for nearly a 24 school Big 12 that encompasses the bottom of the P5.
It’s better the transition of P5 to P3 and the new era of paying players be a step-change while there’s still any notion left from the previous era that these schools are peers. That will fade quickly.
The worst case scenario was/is this occurs slowly, suffocating out programs until it’s a top 40
