Sounds like some on here absolutely HATED beating up on TCU and Cincinnati this year because they “aren’t traditional rivals”
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I actually greatly admire the people that not only paid real dollars for a ticket to those games in the 80s but also had the intestinal fortitude to actually sit through them.
buy this guy a beer, ladies and gentlemen we love ISU football no doubt about it, but we are what we are, last couple of years some of you all treat us like we are a down south team with rich tradition, but NO ONE ELSE sees it that way, wouldnt miss an ISU game, donate largely every year but we are what we are
I despise that name with all my soul.
It's pretty clear that these are specifically geographic rivals.
with you on that, when someone says that i instantly stop hearing what they say and concentrate more on punching them in the face
What's so weird is that every team in every other single major sport has at least one team they play every year, no matter what.
We currently have that with Iowa, but that series is only as strong as a contract allows it to be. With both AD's changing over in this decade (likely), we could lose that as a yearly game as well.
Conferences have a way to bake that in to their model. It is odd that the Big 12 is the only conference that didn't find it necessary.
We currently have that with Iowa, but that series is only as strong as a contract allows it to be. With both AD's changing over in this decade (likely), we could lose that as a yearly game as well.
Conferences have a way to bake that in to their model. It is odd that the Big 12 is the only conference that didn't find it necessary.
I mean, other than when they are ranked, they are pretty meh on the excitement level.
Winning conference games is meh to this guy unless it’s Texas/Oklahoma. Got it
About as many people that seem scared to play Kansas State.
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Let me tell the young folks about the 90's...
Next year's Big 12 schedule using this year's computer composite:
#60 Tech
#91 Baylor
#14 KSU
#101 Cincy
#74 UCF
#18 Utah
#83 Houston
#24 KU
#41 WVU
Average: 56.2
The old 10 team round robin Big 12 schedule using this year's computer composite:
#4 Texas
#10 OU
#14 KSU
#24 KU
#26 OKSt
#41 WVU
#43 TCU
#60 Tech
#91 Baylor
Average: 34.7 (that's in the Big 12's most down year in over a decade)
Bring on the WINS!!!! Thrilled to be done with typical 3rd to 15th ranked SOS at end of these sesasons. Our ten year average has been 11th SOS. Give me some 40ish and 50ish ranked schedules!
#60 Tech
#91 Baylor
#14 KSU
#101 Cincy
#74 UCF
#18 Utah
#83 Houston
#24 KU
#41 WVU
Average: 56.2
The old 10 team round robin Big 12 schedule using this year's computer composite:
#4 Texas
#10 OU
#14 KSU
#24 KU
#26 OKSt
#41 WVU
#43 TCU
#60 Tech
#91 Baylor
Average: 34.7 (that's in the Big 12's most down year in over a decade)
Bring on the WINS!!!! Thrilled to be done with typical 3rd to 15th ranked SOS at end of these sesasons. Our ten year average has been 11th SOS. Give me some 40ish and 50ish ranked schedules!
Big 12 football scheduling model for 2024-2027 revealed: Breaking down the conference’s changes
Every Big 12 team will play each other at least once home and away over the four-year schedule.
theathletic.com
Because the conference has such a large footprint and so many new members, it’s understandable why the Big 12 chose to limit the permanent annual rivalry games. It allows scheduling flexibility so that every team in the conference can see each other regularly. But the rivalries the Big 12 preserved are important. They’re all in-state rivalries, giving the Big 12 a dose of the regionality and proximity that makes college football special.
BYU and Utah, the Holy War, is the oldest of the group (started in 1896) and is as intense as it gets. The Territorial Cup between Arizona and Arizona State started in 1899 and has been played 96 times. The Sunflower Showdown between Kansas and Kansas State dates back to 1898 and will have its 121st meeting this year. And The Revivalry, which started in 1899 between Baylor and TCU, will have its 119th meeting this month.
Yeah, I don't really have a problem with the schedule.
If I read it correctly, this is a very balanced schedule for the Clones.
In four years we get every team home and away once, but we play OSU, KU and KSU three times in four years. OSU, KU and KSU come out as our "semi-protected" rivals.
It could've been worse, I'll take it.
Big 12 football scheduling model for 2024-2027 revealed: Breaking down the conference’s changes
Every Big 12 team will play each other at least once home and away over the four-year schedule.
Because the conference has such a large footprint and so many new members, it’s understandable why the Big 12 chose to limit the permanent annual rivalry games. It allows scheduling flexibility so that every team in the conference can see each other regularly. But the rivalries the Big 12 preserved are important. They’re all in-state rivalries, giving the Big 12 a dose of the regionality and proximity that makes college football special.
BYU and Utah, the Holy War, is the oldest of the group (started in 1896) and is as intense as it gets. The Territorial Cup between Arizona and Arizona State started in 1899 and has been played 96 times. The Sunflower Showdown between Kansas and Kansas State dates back to 1898 and will have its 121st meeting this year. And The Revivalry, which started in 1899 between Baylor and TCU, will have its 119th meeting this month.
The contradiction is, left to their own devices, BYU and Utah had been passionate about not playing each other and not wanting to be in the same conference.
I agree it's a true hated rivalry and a great story...but it is the one angle where you can look that ISU and KSU probably actually want to play that game, Utah was screaming "WE DON'T EVER WANT BYU". I'm also not sold that Baylor/TCU is bigger than any number of old Big 8 matchups. If they have a trophy I have no idea what it is, I know what the Apple Cup and the Platypus trophies look like (two now extinct in state rivalries).
Still at the end of the day I want some years where the schedule allows for a gaudy win total and KSU as guaranteed rival in FB doesn't help with that.
NFL teams don't all play and our conferences are heading for 22ish teams to their 32. They even play some teams twice to play others zero.
Some of you who aren't familiar would loooooooove how European soccer works. Most leagues around 20 teams, identical home and away 38 game schedule for all. Top teams gain entry into Champions League/Europa Cup (all of europe tournament and like an NIT, both the next year), bottom teams relegated to effectively AAA baseball and have to earn way back in.
Our football and basketball schedules during the previous 10 team era really did remind me a lot of the good parts of european soccer leagues but without promotion/relegation. The end result in football though combined with the annual game vs Iowa was schedules that are just harder than a program like ISU ever needed, our program didn't need a top 10 schedule so often and it took a toll some years. In basketball we could hang with it, in fb it has been a challenge.
I've swung already from an initial "do care" to a "don't care". I'm in process of convincing myself I prefer it.
