First offensive play against KSU

[madguy30]

Maybe so, but if you ever played football and did turnover drills, you know that it is nearly impossible to lose the ball when the objective is to just hold on to it. If you can fumble that, then you could botch a snap on a punt, or get the punt blocked, or get the punt returned for a TD just as likely if not more.

As far as running it back for a safety, I've never seen any coach try that ever. Almost all coaches will run the ball once as we did. Whatever the choice it's nearly impossible to lose in that situation. We are Iowa State so we overcome the impossible. The only time I've ever seen a fumble in that situation was that game. The only time I've ever seen a punt go wrong was last year Michigan vs Michigan State.

I get it, but imo they could have gone much lower risk.

Ball security's great to practice, but it's very different if the mind is already fuzzy...and all indications are that Warren had some fragility mentally.

1st Down: Snap to QB, he runs around in the backfield/to the side until someone's within 3-5 yards, then goes down. Probably same amount of time goes by as an off tackle hand off, if not more. Time Out.

2nd Down: same thing, except hand the ball to the ref, they have to work it around while clock is running to place it prior to game clock starting. I don't believe it's a delay of game as long as it's the closest ref.

3rd down: repeat 2nd down. There's close to, or minimal time left on the clock.

4th down: If it's like 3 seconds, snap to QB, he runs around, throws a long ball out of bounds if it's not at 0:00.

Another way to avoid the loss would have been to knee the ball after KSU tied it instead of running a play. It was 100% Red Alert for ISU and at that point it's time to knee the ball, and push 'reset' for Overtime.

I've speculated that CPR was trying to get Warren 200 yards on the day. Nice idea with a 14-21 point lead, not 7 at midfield and you're ISU.

 

[BBHMagic]

I get it, but imo they could have gone much lower risk.

Ball security's great to practice, but it's very different if the mind is already fuzzy...and all indications are that Warren had some fragility mentally.

1st Down: Snap to QB, he runs around in the backfield/to the side until someone's within 3-5 yards, then goes down. Probably same amount of time goes by as an off tackle hand off, if not more. Time Out.

2nd Down: same thing, except hand the ball to the ref, they have to work it around while clock is running to place it prior to game clock starting. I don't believe it's a delay of game as long as it's the closest ref.

3rd down: repeat 2nd down. There's close to, or minimal time left on the clock.

4th down: If it's like 3 seconds, snap to QB, he runs around, throws a long ball out of bounds if it's not at 0:00.

Another way to avoid the loss would have been to knee the ball after KSU tied it instead of running a play. It was 100% Red Alert for ISU and at that point it's time to knee the ball, and push 'reset' for Overtime.

They certainly could have done it that way I'm just not going to second guess it because running backs are trained in ball security more than anyone.

I disagree with kneeing it though on our final possession for the same reason you wished had. K State had immense momentum at that point. Had we gone to an overtime where each team gets equal opportunities our chances would have been tiny. At least on our last possession all things weren't equal so I like going for field goal range in that situation.

 

[dunar]

I'd like to get a petition going that the first offensive play ISU runs against KSU would be taking a knee to
honor last years game.

I was there, I'd rather forget...

I was in the middle of trying to gather our things to head down to celebrate w/ other Cyclones, looked down for a second and the stadium erupted. Ugh.

 

[CyInDFW]

The Cardinals ran a play the other night that I really liked. 3 WR on far side of field. Looks like a WR screen but Fitzgerald (after chip blocking the corner) ran a slant pattern to the middle which was wide open.

Lazard would get called for blocking someone "too hard" downfield to negate a 40+ yard gain.

 

[ThatllDoCy]

Wheel route!

 

[khardbored]

Are we predicting what we want, or what we think will happen?

Want: Go after their secondary immediately with a mid-range or long pass.
Think will happen: Slow moving zone-read for gain of 1.