Eddie Porter?
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Huge pickup. We might have one of the best if not the best defense in the Big 12 next year. Really excited about this because if Porter is a MLB that allows Knott and AJ to stay at their natural positions of OLB.
I would like to know which offense would be optimal with a talent disadvantage across the board because I can't think of a single great offense who doesn't have a talent advantage over the middle. I can think of several mid range offenses that do have a talent advantage. Specifically, I would like to see a high performing "pro-style" offense that doesn't has talent similar to ISU.
You lost me at "Year 5 should probably be a year you need to see results."
Lets be serious here... when you hire a new OC, you don't expect to see results until Year 5? This is big time college football... the results start from Game 1. A huge part of being an OC is adapting to the personnel you have and getting the most out of the talent you have to work with. Also, this was not a "complete system overhaul"... our offensive system is not that different than what we ran before... a complete overhaul would be going from option to spread or something like that.
I am in no way commenting on Herman at all in this thread, I just think it is absurd to give a coordinator 5 YEARS before you need to see results.
This is the major problem at lower level BCS school like ISU. You bring in guys expecting that in 3 years you will be something great. That happens very very rarely. In a lot of coaching changes, comes change in scheme and players needed for said scheme. At ISU, not only did we have that but we had issues in recruiting guys to replace the existing talent that didn't fit.
As for adapting-Yeah, if you have a game changer at some position, you adapt. We didn't. We didn't have one person I would argue that it is reasonable to switch what the coaches wanted to do in the long term. I will use Michigan this year as an example. There is an instance where the OC, and rightfully so, changed what he had done for 20 years because it only makes sense to use Denard Robinson as a runner. We didn't have Matt Barkley sitting here. We didn't have Michael Floyd out here. There was not Trent Richardson. We didn't have this massive experienced offensive line to run people over all day. It makes no sense to sacrifice a year or two of learning your scheme in an effort to make your offensive barely better. My guess is that if Herman would have gone to more "pro-style" stuff we may have been nominally better but you would now be switching, Barnett wouldn't be as familiar with what we want to do, your blocking schemes may have changed, routes changed and you're basically at year .5 in learning this system. The vast majority of OC and DC will say this: Scheme does not matter. What matters is installing your schemes and executing them. If you do that, you will be successful. We have not executed. That's either on Herman and his coaches or it's something else. This year, I think it's inexperience. I may be wrong. In two years I may be calling for Herman's head but I am not about to even put him on the hot seat because his first recruited QB is a RS freshman.
That may be stretching things a little. OU and UT will always have a tough defense. Our D-line is improving, but still needs a little help. Our LB's will probably be the top group with with safeties a close 2nd, but we still need to replace a lock down corner in LJ. Stokes may or may not be that guy, but I don't see any of the freshman coming in and locking down WR's like LJ has done this year.
You could make the case, perhaps, that with the stable of running backs we have and how good a runner that Barnett is, that our personnel favors using a GATech style flexbone offense with two slotbacks and Woody in the FB spot. Given how difficult generally it is for QBs and WRs to develop chemistry and consistency together, I think this would be a viable attack with a young/new QB and an OL that has had a strength in run blocking.
Of course, I just like that it's quirky and different and probably requires more speed than we actually have to use against the likes of OU, Texas but I like it.
Cheers
This has been discussed during the past two off-seasons, but...The more athletic the position, the larger our talent gap has traditionally been. Herman's offense thus far is largely dependent on those positions and marginalizes the positions we are most likely to develop equitable talent (Oline).
Regardless of that aspect, what indications do you have that Herman knows how to utilize a spread offense to minimize talent differential and create match-ups that schematically gives ISU an advantage?
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Maybe a new thread is in order for that discussion. From here on out, this thread is about Eddie Porter.
Sorry. This may have been one of the better "still talking about the same sport and team" derailments though.
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agreed. And I have participated in it as well. It's a worthwhile discussion, and one that should be picked up in another thread. This thread, however, ought to be about Eddie Porter, or at least about the defense.
I know there was a thread about what we'll do with our last few spots for this recruiting calls, but I can't find the thread anymore.
That being said, since we now have our linebacker, where do these last few schollies go? OL, TE seem to me to be the biggest needs. I still think another LB out of highschool would be a good get.
That being said, since we now have our linebacker, where do these last few schollies go? OL, TE seem to me to be the biggest needs. I still think another LB out of highschool would be a good get.
Wow, this is a crazy good pickup. I'm thinking if Simone can continue to improve and make a contribution and Pompey comes in off the RS year and begins to be the player we all hope/think he can along with all the returning players and depth we've developed on defense this year...next years defense could be straight up legit top half of the conference.
Amazing pickup.
I'm optimistic about this defense for next year, particularly with the maturing of the younger guys on the DLine.
Welcome aboard Mr. Porter!
Cheers
demoncore1031
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Great news. IMO, this solidifies CPR is not going anywhere. If Porter decommitted because of a coach leaving/getting fired, then I am sure CPR told him he is 100% here for the long haul.
