None of the games were played in Hilton, where Johnny nearly always won. They were played elsewhere where Johnny nearly always lost.Amazingly Johnny only won 3 tournament games in 14 years
None of the games were played in Hilton, where Johnny nearly always won. They were played elsewhere where Johnny nearly always lost.Amazingly Johnny only won 3 tournament games in 14 years
Hampton would take that betI would have bet $1000 he had more.
Ouch. Too soonHampton would take that bet
you kind of have to throw his first 4 years out as he had to build it up from nothing. He created Hilton Magic and made ISU basketball very exciting. He almost won two Big 8 conference torunaments, refs screwed us both times I think. In one of them he actually chased the refs off the floor. He went to 6 NCAA tournaments in in last nine years on the job. He would have had 7 but lost our big to an injury to get hit by a train. And he did the non selfish thing and stepped down when he had a team of 6 seniors returning to give a new coach a chance to recruit. Got us to the Sweet 16 where we lost NC State by just 4. Came close to another sweet 16 in 1992, a Thigpin 3 went in and out in the closing moments. He scheduled a lot of tough non conference opponents and would beat them at home. Got a huge road win at #2 Purdue. A lot of people rip on Orr's record without much context on it. He was a charactor that made Cyclone basketball fun. The passion, the excitement, the culture. We owe all of that to him.Amazingly Johnny only won 3 tournament games in 14 years
That puts things in perspective, a little.Amazingly Johnny only won 3 tournament games in 14 years
Expectations weren't so out of whack then. For some reason we think we're a blue blood now.That puts things in perspective, a little.
Love me some Johnny, but it would have been nice to win a few more games, tourney games. But how can you fault Johnny Orr?
Expectations weren't so out of whack then. For some reason we think we're a blue blood now.
Not sure why people have to draw the dumb button so quick. It's your opinion. You may even change your opinion. It's fine.Expectations weren't so out of whack then. For some reason we think we're a blue blood now.
Let coach TJ.Outstanding article by Hines.
I really admire coaches who are secure enough in themselves to step back and allow their assistants to actually coach. You can see it during our timeout huddles. There's no other coaching staff in the nation that's structured like ours, but I can guarantee you there soon will be.
I'm not saying we shouldn't aspire to be better. We should. Some of the fans seem to lose all sense of historical context with some of the criticisms they have of the team and coaches. I'm sure some fans did in the 80s and 90s too, it's just the lack of an outlet like social media spared us of a lot of their dumb takes.Not sure why people have to draw the dumb button so quick. It's your opinion. You may even change your opinion. It's fine.
Johnny Orr did some great things, things that were not done before. Hopefully TJ will bring us to BB blue blood. Never know? But we are going in the right direction.
It's OK to remember that we were not always great at BB. Far from it in some years.
Good post, and very true.I'm not saying we shouldn't aspire to be better. We should. Some of the fans seem to lose all sense of historical context with some of the criticisms they have of the team and coaches. I'm sure some fans did in the 80s and 90s too, it's just the lack of an outlet like social media spared us of a lot of their dumb takes.
Social media would have ended Johnny's career early...I'm not saying we shouldn't aspire to be better. We should. Some of the fans seem to lose all sense of historical context with some of the criticisms they have of the team and coaches. I'm sure some fans did in the 80s and 90s too, it's just the lack of an outlet like social media spared us of a lot of their dumb takes.
I think it’s always good to have some perspective. Winning games in the ncaa tournament is difficult. But TJ has quickly raised our expectations that his teams are fully capable of winning tournament gamesNot sure why people have to draw the dumb button so quick. It's your opinion. You may even change your opinion. It's fine.
Johnny Orr did some great things, things that were not done before. Hopefully TJ will bring us to BB blue blood. Never know? But we are going in the right direction.
It's OK to remember that we were not always great at BB. Far from it in some years.
Social media would have ended Johnny's career early...
and just a follow up to this. The Big 8 he coached in was very rugged with GREAT coaches.you kind of have to throw his first 4 years out as he had to build it up from nothing. He created Hilton Magic and made ISU basketball very exciting. He almost won two Big 8 conference torunaments, refs screwed us both times I think. In one of them he actually chased the refs off the floor. He went to 6 NCAA tournaments in in last nine years on the job. He would have had 7 but lost our big to an injury to get hit by a train. And he did the non selfish thing and stepped down when he had a team of 6 seniors returning to give a new coach a chance to recruit. Got us to the Sweet 16 where we lost NC State by just 4. Came close to another sweet 16 in 1992, a Thigpin 3 went in and out in the closing moments. He scheduled a lot of tough non conference opponents and would beat them at home. Got a huge road win at #2 Purdue. A lot of people rip on Orr's record without much context on it. He was a charactor that made Cyclone basketball fun. The passion, the excitement, the culture. We owe all of that to him.
A decent chunk of his time the tourney only had 48 teamsThat puts things in perspective, a little.
Love me some Johnny, but it would have been nice to win a few more games, tourney games. But how can you fault Johnny Orr?
Social media back then would have been shoved into a dark stinky place where it belongs with Johnny the first dude pushing it there.Social media would have ended Johnny's career early...