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Maybe Prohm should talk to CMC so he can learn about toughness and effort.
Coach Prohm Gets Extension
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This post is great but really needs the finisher:
Maybe Prohm should talk to CMC so he can learn about toughness and effort.
Inbounds plays, man. It's all about inbounds plays. That reminds me, did anybody watch HOF coach Jay Wright's Villanova team absolutely suck balls on inbounds plays this weekend? Even got a 5 second count coming out of a timeout.
I know him, he's so negative on Prohm. I just don't get people's mentality on sending a guy packing that's matched Hoiberg's wins and dug himself out of a hole that Fred put him in. Stuff like that leaves programs hurting for awhile. We all know that Fred likely won't have as much success in the transfer portal this time around as there are way more big names in that market now. Prohm has done well with recruiting both HS and transfers. Yeah, most of us can agree on that fact he does need some more help and experience in the in game management and coaching, but most coaches have some type of flaws. Fred didn't know what defense was, hated recruiting, let his players do whatever they wanted it seemed, and his teams still had a lot of let down games.
Lol, were you lost that game? Everyone played a horrible game that day. BDJ had some type of locker room confrontation. Niang couldn't make a shot. McKay didn't show up defensively, Thomas was the only one who looked like he cared and wanted to be there. UAB was a bad bad team. Like real bad. There's no way in sam hell they should have lost that game. I was way more angry after that game, as it ruined the entire ncaa tourney for me with it being the very first game.
Curious to see if there will be anything about how the extension went down. The timing of it seemed suspicious.
that's true. Prohm didn't have to rebuild. He inherited gold compared to Orr. Orr built the program, then dipped, then built up again. then dipped, then retired.
Its weird... Its as if JP and CSP were working on this for about a month yet even with the loss we still went through with it. Its ALMOST like JP thinks CSP is a perfect fit for our university and to serve as a role model for our players. Eerie really when you get down to it.
A bigger picture in terms of home games
Home winning percentages
Orr 73.7%
Floyd 75.8%
Eustachy 83.5%
Morgan 80%
McDermott .667
Hoiberg 87.2%
Prohm 74.6%
Though... the makeup of who we're playing at home has probably changed. An additional conference game and some home games replaced with neutral tournaments.
Seasons are longer now. We play in the low-30s for games, not the high-20s.
How many home games are there now per season... and... if there are more, are there just more against cupcakes, or are we filling it up with Big 12 games or good challenge series against other high-major squads, like Tennessee two years ago?
I wonder what the Prohm number is if you take the "down" year out.
And man, McDermott was bad.
I guess you can see more of the Hoiberg warm fuzzy there -- man, people saw him win at home a lot, fed into the Johnny nostalgia for Hilton Magic, though those teams did not have the road pedigree that Prohm is slowly building up now.
I can agree with almost everything you said. but what did i manipulate? I gave literal stats from 2 coaches and their careers as ISU head coaches (thus far). i didn't alter or manipulate anything.
Physics of the ball doing everything but going in on that last roll from UCF and bang-bang (arguably favorable although I've seen worse not get called) calls are why HOF Coach K is coaching this week.
Look at the schedules Johnny played in his first couple of seasons.
And it was with next to no players.
It truly was a different era.
Wow. I just looked at his first several seasons. It was a different era indeed. Apparently it was much easier to schedule home & home series with other P5 schools at that time.
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I'm not enthralled with adding that many years but anymore you have to do it to show commitment for recruiting purposes so we have to live with it. It's the landscape.
I was ok with what Prohm did with Fred's guys and expected last year. There was uncertainty to start this season but I think a .500 record in THIS year's B12 was a let down. The injury to Solo is vastly understated...see the tOSU game, but there was still some real head scratchers in there for the talent we had. If I'm oversimplifying, he didn't overachieve. I think people can draw their own conclusions as to what we should expect or if we "deserve" better.
No part of me wanted him gone, let me make that clear, but I hope he learns and improves. The best coaches in the game are always adapting. ISU has shown their commitment. The fan base teeters between passionate and obsessive, but that's better than playing in front of 3000 people. We take more people to KC than a lot of P6 programs draw for home games. Facilities and player amenities/academic support are more than competitive. Prohm has what he needs to succeed and plenty to build on. I don't expect conference titles and final fours every year, but I hope for more than what we saw this year and will be cheering hard for it to happen.
I was ok with what Prohm did with Fred's guys and expected last year. There was uncertainty to start this season but I think a .500 record in THIS year's B12 was a let down. The injury to Solo is vastly understated...see the tOSU game, but there was still some real head scratchers in there for the talent we had. If I'm oversimplifying, he didn't overachieve. I think people can draw their own conclusions as to what we should expect or if we "deserve" better.
No part of me wanted him gone, let me make that clear, but I hope he learns and improves. The best coaches in the game are always adapting. ISU has shown their commitment. The fan base teeters between passionate and obsessive, but that's better than playing in front of 3000 people. We take more people to KC than a lot of P6 programs draw for home games. Facilities and player amenities/academic support are more than competitive. Prohm has what he needs to succeed and plenty to build on. I don't expect conference titles and final fours every year, but I hope for more than what we saw this year and will be cheering hard for it to happen.
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Some people would still complain if they were handed a gold nugget on a platter !!
