I assume this departure is looked at incredibly differently by Jamie than Zion's. You kind of saw the writing on the wall for Zion.. This was a complete shocker.
Caleb Grill Transferring
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Prohm was given the keys to a vintage Corvette... and drove it straight into a tree.
The difference in the tone of the comments when a white guy transfers out is pretty funny.
I think the issue becomes sustainability. You can't just keep turning over rosters like this. It feels like we are having to play with an entirely new group every year. Kids like Grill are supposed to help provide continuity. Maybe they don't set the world on fire their first year, and maybe not even their second year, but the contribute over the course of 4 years.
This post existing at all is pretty funny
I’m surprised anyone is mad about this....he didn’t look like a big 12 caliber player to me
wait and see what happens if any of Jackson, conditt or solo transfer out
My optimism is diminishing, but I still won't resort to pessimism at the moment. Grill was likely another year away from being a force. He probably would've been able to soak up some minutes and be solid next year, but it still looked like he was a little bit away from truly being a Big 12 contributor.
If Solo, Bolton, Jackson, Conditt would've left or one of the guys in the 2020 class wanted to be released from his LOI (Foster or Blackwell especially), then I would probably lose all hope. Grill leaving stings because he could've ended up being a leader in the future for this program, but as far as production wise we're not losing a tremendous piece.
I know we're obviously in different situations as far as the program goes, but this sort of feels like the Clayton Custer situation. If Prohm is heavily going after guys that are guards / wings that are very likely to compete for his minutes, and then you add in the fact that the 3 out of the 4 2020 class can all play that 3 position as well as Johnson, I can sort of see Grill being intimidated by that and wanting to find a better place to get significant minutes. Custer wasn't going to start because Monte, Naz, and Matt were in front of him.
I'd be amazed if you don't wind up losing all hope.
I didn’t either, but we do need bodies for next year. There was still a glimmer of hope he would be something.
One more definitely and potentially two guys. Essentially he gets another year to get to the NCAA Tournament.
Prohm skipped an entire level of DI Basketball and never really had to build anything at Murray. Plus, Murray has the best facilities, resources and tradition BY FAR in the OVC, its an easy job. He was a questionable hire at the time and it looks worse and worse as time goes on.
It’s not like every other program isn’t facing the same obstacle. It’s not an excuse.
