Honest question: I've seen the assertion on this site that the accuser was incredibly drunk, but have never read that in media reports. Was this documented anywhere (courts, etc)? I'm not disputing it, just trying to clarify.
Bubu Suing ISU
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Honest question: I've seen the assertion on this site that the accuser was incredibly drunk, but have never read that in media reports. Was this documented anywhere (courts, etc)? I'm not disputing it, just trying to clarify.
"So, getting drunk means that someone deserves to be raped?"
At no point have I said ANYONE deserves to be raped. Disagree with my opinion, but do not exaggerate what I have said into non-factual absolutes.
Yup, on mobile and didn't say at all what I meant.
Either way, the whole situation is bad. Bubu shouldn't have hooked up with an ex and Leath shouldn't have punished a kid that, from the beginning, appeared innocent on all counts. Even Iowa fans I know have acknowledged that.
Doubt if Leath or his/ISU lawyers pay. Expect it to come out of the Iowa taxpayers if Bubu wins.
There are plenty of women whom I regretted having sex with come the morning. But I didn't report it to the police as rape. Mostly so my friends wouldn't find out
At the least, people need to be better educated about risky behaviors that increase the risks. In Bubu's case:
1) Never drive a girl who has been drinking to have sex with her. It shows you thought you were not too drunk to drive and that the girl was.
2) Unless in a committed relationship, always have sex at one of your residences. Not in a vacant building.
3) Unless in a really committed relationship, never have sex involving more than two people, especially more than one male.
I think that is just a universal rule of thumb, regardless of being in a committed relationship...
In regards to point 2.) What if its outside? Or the building isn't vacant?
As for point 3... Don't knock the Eiffel Tower until you try it.
At least you remember doing it. Some of us weren't that fortunate.
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Here's one I would add...but I'm basically ******* in the wind with this crowd when I say it.
4) Don't get so drunk that you lose your ability to make wise decisions.
So... My thoughts on this...
The "victim" messed up. Bubu messed up. Iowa State messed up. The whole situation had mistakes made from every party. Regarding Bubu suing ISU, I think he does have a case that he should be compensated for how he was punished, but that doesn't mean Bubu didn't do anything wrong here from a decision-making standpoint.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone in this thread would agree with that.
The "victim" messed up. Bubu messed up. Iowa State messed up. The whole situation had mistakes made from every party. Regarding Bubu suing ISU, I think he does have a case that he should be compensated for how he was punished, but that doesn't mean Bubu didn't do anything wrong here from a decision-making standpoint.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone in this thread would agree with that.
And then we would all be saying how crooked their administration is. You want a tough stance, whoa too tough. Weak stance? Brile's doesn't respect women and Baylor should lose its D1 status!!!!
Regardless of any of the facts/opinions of the assault case itself, which have been discussed ad nauseum in this thread, I feel like Bubu's position is that the timing of Leath's decision to declare him ineligible is what really screwed him over. There was more than ample time to tell Bubu "Hey in the eyes of the law you are in the clear, but you didn't abide by our more-stringent rules. Therefore, you're ineligible."
Instead, the administration delayed and waited until just after the date he could have transferred. Unless you presume that the Iowa State administration didn't know the deadline for transferring eligibility (which would display extreme ineptitude and lack of due diligence by the administration), it is pretty clear that there was malicious intent.
Instead, the administration delayed and waited until just after the date he could have transferred. Unless you presume that the Iowa State administration didn't know the deadline for transferring eligibility (which would display extreme ineptitude and lack of due diligence by the administration), it is pretty clear that there was malicious intent.
I'm almost positive it was in the original court documents. But, I can't find them anywhere on line - I would guess they are sealed?
Bubu was a walk-on with some promise, hence ISU (who he says wronged him) rewarding him with a scholarship. He was well-liked in Ames because he was a hometown boy. He was not lighting the world on fire, there was no missed opportunity to go to the pros. There are no damages here. There's a kid who refuses to take responsibility for ANY part of this, to any degree, looking to punish those who dared tell him that he wasn't a good representative for the university regardless of if it was a crime or not (which was 100% in their rights).
We've taken on transfers who had a criminal history. Many, in fact. If Bubu was such a hot commodity, someone would have picked him up to play overseas.
The phrase I recall from reading the documents online was that BuBu stated he was "black-out" drunk. That phrase stuck in my mind because of the "giving her a ride because she was drunk" part. Seemed like a poor decision for ANY of them to drive.
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