Brands quote on this weekend

Illiniclone

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This stuff is fine for Brands to say, but if Cael would say that going into a match with Iowa, Brands would walk over there and punch him for it.

The guy sure can dish it out, but he sure can't take it.

Have you ever met a squawk that can take it?
 

cloneswereall

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Gotta disagree on that. I think Brands is a ridiculous caricature who doesn't know the difference between intensity and insanity. And the whole gang rape thing from when he was in high school doesn't exactly help.

After reading that link, I can see it. I just think there might be some venom against him in that article as well. IF he holds the same mentality that he did when that was written, that's a different story.
 

howellc33

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I love this rivalry and hope we can put together another team that can really challenge Iowa in this dual. The year from the pic I posted we were d*mn close. I think Metcalf pinning Mueller was the kill shot. I remember there was no curtain at Hilton and it had that "big deal" feel. Duals like that every year would be good stuff.
 

NEICyFan

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At what point are you just going to admit to yourself that you're an Iowa Wrestling fan? This is a safe place.

Typical Judo. If someone doesn't buy into his sunshine and roses and disagrees with him, even with facts, they aren't an ISU fan. I happen to follow the sport itself and not just ISU. Both of the guys I mentioned were junior world team placewinners this past summer and have made it a habit tof beating D1 starters. They just happen to be behind studs. Sorry that a program you have blind hatred for has depth. It isn't my fault.
 

NEICyFan

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Gotta disagree on that. I think Brands is a ridiculous caricature who doesn't know the difference between intensity and insanity. And the whole gang rape thing from when he was in high school doesn't exactly help.

If you're going to call someone a rapist you better have proof. You seem like a good guy, Judo. That's pretty low. Hate the guy all you want but give me a break.
 

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This stuff is fine for Brands to say, but if Cael would say that going into a match with Iowa, Brands would walk over there and punch him for it.

The guy sure can dish it out, but he sure can't take it.

I like Cael's chances in that one.

In my mind this is just how Brands talks. Would have said it about any team. That said, him and his Coaches are like dogs, one gets excited, then the other gets more excited, and pretty soon they're humping legs and actin up. It's ridiculous.
 

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"No brag, just fact" seems appropriate to this discussion. Until we can pose a challenge to hawk wrestling and sooner football, the Brands and Switzers of the world can keep snapping our tally___ers with a wet towel.
 

Judoka

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If you're going to call someone a rapist you better have proof. You seem like a good guy, Judo. That's pretty low. Hate the guy all you want but give me a break.

Its in the link. I was referencing an actual allegation from an actual event, and I wasn't even the one who first brought it up. Somebody linked it earlier in the thread. He and three friends were accused of coercing a girl into having sex with them, he claimed she was willing.

Sports Illustrated said:
On Super Bowl Sunday in his senior year at Sheldon (Iowa) Community High, Tom says, he and three buddies were involved in what was termed sexual misconduct with a 16-year-old. "Some people thought it was rape, but it wasn't," insists Tom, who until now has never spoken publicly about the incident. "The girl was willing."

Willing or not, she did not return to school for several days after the incident. At the end of the week Tom was summoned by the principal, David Kapfer, and the athletic director, Jim DeJong, and told he would be banned for the rest of the wrestling season, including the state tournament. "For what?" Tom says he screamed. "I didn't get caught smoking cigarettes or drinking or doing dope! You can't make me ineligible. My life is wrestling!"

Though Tom was never charged with a crime - and the alleged victim was also suspended from extracurricular activities - the school board voted to uphold the decision. "It was a joke!" Tom says, still indignant. "A kangaroo joke!" When Tom's parents took the board to court, a federal district judge refused to lift the ban. Tom missed the state finals. "The whole thing was a mistake, a stupid, infantile mistake," says Tom. "I've made a lot of mistakes over the years, but overall I've led a pretty clean life. I'm married now." There's a coil of anger beneath the apology.

Here's exactly what the school district suspended him for. The letter he got from the school had the following list, that he
"1) engaged in bullying behavior;
2) committed an assault on (redacted) in that you took acts against her resulting in physical contact which was insulting and offensive and which caused her emotional injury;
3) willfully injured (redacted) by doing an unjustified act causing her serious emotional and mental injury; and
4) participated in multiple acts of sexual intercourse involving (redacted) which took place on January 25, 1987."

Here's a link to the court case he filed when he was suspended from competition

He was never formally charged with anything and is not a convicted rapist. You are entirely correct on that. The court case did not make any finding about that, the court case was about whether the school gave him due process when they suspended him for it.
 
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