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Die4Cy said:
If you are only taking conference champs and the top G5, YOU DON'T NEED A COMMITTEE. Criteria for seeding can be predetermined and transparent. Even the old BCS formula would do. The thing I like most about it is none of those criteria matter until you win your conference first.
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Bingo especially your last sentence. BCS type of formula works or have every FBS coach rank the 6 teams and then it gets tallied up like Heisman or MVP voting, and the head coaches of the six teams don’t vote. Then the totals are spit out and there’s your seeding. Just tossing out something that isn’t a biased 13-person committee. With the number of FBS coaches voting any bias really gets negated.
 
Jeremy said:
I tend to agree. It’s typically 1 or 2 dominant teams, 5 or 6 good teams, and then a bunch of others. People complain every year about getting left out and that wouldn’t change. It also wouldn’t change that the 1 or 2 dominant teams would still destroy them.

A great season like ISU had by our standards still wouldn’t put us within 40 of this Alabama squad, regardless of how much koolaid is passed around. You’re just going to have even more lopsided games because #1 would now be playing #8.
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We just played Oklahoma and really probably should have beat them but made mistakes. Florida just competed with Alabama.

Oklahoma just the other day could have beat Florida by 50 if they wanted to.

Anyone who says we wouldn’t be within 40 doesn’t know football.
 
motorcy90 said:
hadn't done the math yet when I posted or even looked at the score really..

at the same time we would get 4-2 Oregon as an auto bid at this point as well.. who backed into the CCG due to Washington being unable to play... I would be fine with the BCS computers handling who the top 8 are and go from there...
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This is not the year to use as any example unless you think it will be a pandemic for all-time moving forward.
 
jctisu said:
People whine about getting a seat at the table now they complain what seat? Again prove it on the field. You are in so let’s see what ya got. Also, the bye is sometime a curse for teams that like to be in rhythm. Too much time off can be a disadvantage for some teams, especially high octane offenses.

NFL uses byes and it’s worked perfectly in my opinion. It’s an advantage but not a guarantee you make the title game.

In the end I think the subjective nature of seeding is not nearly as bad as going to 8 and haven’t 2-3 wildcards basically where they are just going to add more SEC and Big Ten teams, so what’s the difference. I don’t and subjective reason for who gets in. Yes I know the G5 spot still technically is but they are getting a shot at least finally in my scenario. Shut up and take it.
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Except the Bye in the NFL playoffs is built on concrete standings and the Bye in college football would be a committee of a bunch of SEC/B1G hoochies that would put in a one loss tOSU over an undefeated Iowa State with some 'body of work' b.s.

Not sure what the answer is but the current system is boring as F. The first season of it was interesting.
 
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Urbandale2013 said:
We just played Oklahoma and really probably should have beat them but made mistakes. Florida just competed with Alabama.

Oklahoma just the other day could have beat Florida by 50 if they wanted to.

Anyone who says we wouldn’t be within 40 doesn’t know football.
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Im pretty confident I know football. With your six degrees of separation theory, Louisiana should also be in the playoffs. It doesn’t all work that way. I’m talking talents, styles of plays, strengths and weaknesses. ISU is good but a horrible matchup for an Alabama or Clemson. Our O line would crumble and our passing defense would look subpar.
 
Die4Cy said:
If you are only taking conference champs and the top G5, YOU DON'T NEED A COMMITTEE. Criteria for seeding can be predetermined and transparent. Even the old BCS formula would do. The thing I like most about it is none of those criteria matter until you win your conference first.
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I'd have to check but didn't they add a committee on to the BCS formula because of this exact same thing?

Basically they can't let it set on that if it means tOSU has to win their way to the Top 4.
 
Jeremy said:
Im pretty confident I know football. With your six degrees of separation theory, Louisiana should also be in the playoffs. It doesn’t all work that way. I’m talking talents, styles of plays, strengths and weaknesses. ISU is good but a horrible matchup for an Alabama or Clemson. Our O line would crumble and our passing defense would look subpar.
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If you want to try and argue they’d beat us soundly every time fine. Trying to argue that we wouldn’t be within 40 is moronic.
 
ChamplinCyclone22 said:
SEC would take their ball and go home in that scenario. Do 8 and you can guarantee G5 slot and two other wild cards.
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Cool let them whine and go have their own playoff with just SEC teams. Not interested in having every wild card spot be filled with SEC and Big Ten teams.
 
madguy30 said:
Except the Bye in the NFL playoffs is built on concrete standings and the Bye in college football would be a committee of a bunch of SEC/B1G hoochies that would put in a one loss tOSU over an undefeated Iowa State with some 'body of work' b.s.

Not sure what the answer is but the current system is boring as F. The first season of it was interesting.
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Again you’re still in the playoff so it’s up to you to win it and show you are the best.

But that’s why I suggested a non-committee in a different post on this. See my thoughts on having all FBS coaches rank the six teams, coaches of team in playoff do not get a vote, and tally it up like MVP or Heisman voting where you get points for first place through sixth. Total it up and spit them out.
 
jctisu said:
I’m cut throat with this. Make it 6-team playoff with all P5 champs and the top G5 in the polls. That’s it. You get in because you actually won on the field and earned your spot. Could the second best team in the nation be left out because they just were in the conference with the best team? Sure. But you had your shot on the field and lost. In the end this way not a single person could say you didn’t have a chance. Win your league if you are the P5 and you get your shot. Don’t win your league, well that’s your fault.

Puts full emphasis on conferences championships and prevents sand bagging because you want one of the two byes in the playoffs.
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The problem with allowing the highest ranked g5 team is that almost always, that team is going to be Notre Dame. I don’t like the idea of Notre Dame getting a playoff spot every year and using that as a recruiting advantage.
 
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jctisu said:
Again you’re still in the playoff so it’s up to you to win it and show you are the best.

But that’s why I suggested a non-committee in a different post on this. See my thoughts on having all FBS coaches rank the six teams, coaches of team in playoff do not get a vote, and tally it up like MVP or Heisman voting where you get points for first place through sixth. Total it up and spit them out.
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That's basically a committee that will show bias.

And before someone says it no it's not like the NCAA tournament because there's not byes in that unless you consider a non-play in game a bye.
 
SCNCY said:
The problem with allowing the highest ranked g5 team is that almost always, that team is going to be Notre Dame. I don’t like the idea of Notre Dame getting a playoff spot every year and using that as a recruiting advantage.
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they are ACC.
 
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