Big 12 WBB Tournament 23-24 Thread

We all know the men's and women's tournaments should overlap and share the same week in KC. Just look at the crowd tonight (if you can call it that) for the lowest seeded teams. It won't be much better next week for the men's tournament either. Hopefully, the Big XII leadership can figure this out.

My thought is play the two bottom seed games on campus before moving onto Kansas City. Here is how that could work.

Women:
Two games on campus the Friday or Saturday of the week prior to tournament week.
Four games on Monday in KC
Four Quarterfinal games on Tuesday in KC
Break Wed. and Thursday for men's games
Two Semifinal games one session on Friday
One Championship session on Saturday

Men:
Two campus games on Monday of tournament week.
Four games on Wednesday in KC
Four Quarterfinal games on Thursday in KC
Two Semifinal games the other session on Friday
One Championship the other session on Saturday

You could get better attendance and revenue for these low seed games and not have to pay rent for T-Mobile either.

If equity is an issue, flip the scheduling and have the men finish their season earlier in alternate years and they would take the mid week break.

Feedback and thoughts welcomed.
You go to 16 teams next year, so the question will be, is there a reward for the top four teams (double-bye), or is it set up like an NCAA bracket with 16 teams?
 
You go to 16 teams next year, so the question will be, is there a reward for the top four teams (double-bye), or is it set up like an NCAA bracket with 16 teams?
I bet it's like now -- just replace the 9 seed with a first-round 9-16 game and the 10 seed with a first round 10-15 game. 1-4 get double-byes, 5-8 get single-byes (compared to 5-10 now).
 
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We all know the men's and women's tournaments should overlap and share the same week in KC. Just look at the crowd tonight (if you can call it that) for the lowest seeded teams. It won't be much better next week for the men's tournament either. Hopefully, the Big XII leadership can figure this out.

My thought is play the two bottom seed games on campus before moving onto Kansas City. Here is how that could work.

Women:
Two games on campus the Friday or Saturday of the week prior to tournament week.
Four games on Monday in KC
Four Quarterfinal games on Tuesday in KC
Break Wed. and Thursday for men's games
Two Semifinal games one session on Friday
One Championship session on Saturday

Men:
Two campus games on Monday of tournament week.
Four games on Wednesday in KC
Four Quarterfinal games on Thursday in KC
Two Semifinal games the other session on Friday
One Championship the other session on Saturday

You could get better attendance and revenue for these low seed games and not have to pay rent for T-Mobile either.

If equity is an issue, flip the scheduling and have the men finish their season earlier in alternate years and they would take the mid week break.

Feedback and thoughts welcomed.
I like what you're going for and the creativity of it. Here are the things that I think would be potential areas of complaint for fans/schools (none are things that I personally would have a big issue with).
  • Two teams near the bottom of the conference standings getting home games to start the tournament, and getting at least the concession revenue that goes along with it.
  • Having just one travel day, especially in the men's format where you could theoretically have a team go road game -> travel day -> 3 days of neutral games all in a row. Granted, that result probably would never happen since it would involve one of the bottom teams in the conference making the championship.
  • The two-day midweek break in the women's format feels weird, though the women's tournament has the Sunday break this year.
Overall, though, I think your design could be pretty effective and it puts both the men's and women's championship games on the big stage on Saturday. The midweek break wouldn't be as big of a deal because there'd be games for the other tournament happening at the same time, and the short travel after the on-campus games probably makes up for the benefit for the on-campus hosts.
 
Keep in mind we're moving to 16 teams next year. My guess is four first round games instead of two. I don't think campus games will happen -- a more likely option is moving early WBB rounds to Municipal.

If you want to intersperse WBB and MBB, here's a schedule:

Day 1: WBB Round 1 (four games) at Muni, MBB Round 1 (four games) at TMo
Day 2: WBB Round 2 (four games) at Muni, MBB Round 2 (four games) at TMo
Day 3: WBB Round 3 (four games) at TMo
Day 4: MBB Round 3 (four games) at TMo
Day 5: WBB/MBB Semifinals (four total games) at TMo
Day 6: WBB/MBB Finals (two games total) at TMo

The problem is this is likely Monday through Saturday. (Thanks, BYU). Right now the MBB schedule is Tuesday through Saturday to give the teams two days between the Saturday games that end the regular season and the start of the tournament. You could move WBB round 3 to Muni to condense the schedule to 5 days, but at that point you're practically moving the whole tournament there.
 
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Ive already seen 5 Hawkeye fans here with their gear on. Do they not care for the Big 10 tourney? Or maybe they just live here and cant afford to make the trip.
Maybe they just don't know the difference between a "0" and a "2". Or a "G" and roman numerals. <shrug>
 
We walked into TMobile after we finally saw the open doors to the north :) No one else around so we briefly chatted with the security folks. Maybe 500 here last night. They saw our Iowa State stuff and their faces kind of lit up - Iowa State travels!
 
Three games in and I’m not impressed by anyone yet. Even Baylor operated in fits and misses today. Lots of missed shots. They did dominate inside. Watching TCU and OSU now. Same level of ugliness.
 
Three games in and I’m not impressed by anyone yet. Even Baylor operated in fits and misses today. Lots of missed shots. They did dominate inside. Watching TCU and OSU now. Same level of ugliness.
Agree. I’m surprised to see so much ugh from so close. Expected better.
 
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As you post, West Virginia is up 42-21 over Cin at the half. No reason to keep watching.
We left at the under 5 TO. By then we knew we wouldn’t miss anything good.