Athletic Dept deficits

How about the lottery? It probably can't cover everything, but if the Iowa Lottery gives away $300,000,000 in prizes plus $100,000,000 for funding state initiatives, (both approximate numbers), could $30,000,000 of that go to the Iowa State, UNI, and Iowa? $10,000,000 each for athletic department budgets.

Does the lottery sell less tickets if they give away $270,000,000 in prizes instead of $300,000,000?

Then add taxes to sports gambling, and have some additional.
Like I said, the state is in bad enough shape, if a source of revenue is legal and isn’t going to inhibit growth, then it should be on the table.
 
Sure, but u bring up different, but related topics then I did.

There is a simple way to fund the NIL for uni, iowa, and iowa state.

It is a stand alone decision. You are muddling it up with other topics, imo. If you stay on that path, then nothing will get done.

Let's fund it with a sin tax and be done with it.
We have one of the lowest gambling taxes out there. We could double it and pop another 20MM for the 3 schools.
 
The schools all have a cap already, how you convince any court to allow independent caps on outside spend is going to be very hard if not impossible
All the schools would have to agree to it, and it would have to be policed with penalties if you broke the rules. Much like they do at the professional level, with a salary cap and other things.
This is the Wild West right now, no rules, every school does what it wants.
There were those that where sure that when this $20 million per school came out, that it would limit and reign in NIL, we now know its not going to happen, school are far over the cap and that number is going to go up every year.
 
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All the schools would have to agree to it, and it would have to be policed with penalties if you broke the rules. Much like they do at the professional level, with a salary cap and other things.
This is the Wild West right now, no rules, every school does what it wants.
There were those that where sure that when this $20 million per school came out, that it would limit and reign in NIL, we now know its not going to happen, school are far over the cap and that number is going to go up every year.
That limits what the school can do, it was never going to limit what outside resources were going to do and frankly it shouldn’t. If a bunch of donors and wealthy fans/alums want to give players a bunch of money, good for the players. The 20mil is capped at what the school can give as rev share, it was never about NIL

Again, there is a difference between rev share and NIL. NIL there is no cap just a review process that doesn’t do really anything but rev share has a cap and also no one is forcing a school to pay rev share if they don’t want to or how it’s distributed
 
It’s all the state budget. You’re raising a source of revenue that’s available, which I agree should be done. If there’s proof that investing state money in filling the revenue sharing for college athletes makes some multiplier in economic growth then go for it.

I’m not conflating two topics. The state is bleeding money. You want the state to add a new expense. You have a source of new revenue to do that.

Our state is in a terrible financial state. We don’t have the luxury to turn down reasonable sources of revenue as long as it doesn’t damage growth, so we are on the same page on the gambling tax.

I’m just not convinced that adding a new expense without having some data that suggests that investment is going to deliver additional future revenue.
Having 30,000 people at a game has a dramatically less money multiplier than 60,000.

You are conflating topics.

This can be funded by a simple maneuver that has nothing to do with any and all existing issues or opportunities related to our State.
 
There were those that where sure that when this $20 million per school came out, that it would limit and reign in NIL, we now know its not going to happen, school are far over the cap and that number is going to go up every year.
Pollard was one of those, he said it in one of his talks.
 
That limits what the school can do, it was never going to limit what outside resources were going to do and frankly it shouldn’t. If a bunch of donors and wealthy fans/alums want to give players a bunch of money, good for the players. The 20mil is capped at what the school can give as rev share, it was never about NIL

Again, there is a difference between rev share and NIL. NIL there is no cap just a review process that doesn’t do really anything but rev share has a cap and also no one is forcing a school to pay rev share if they don’t want to or how it’s distributed
Without a limit of outside sources can spend, you will always have the haves and have-nots. This legislation like most things that come out of DC have loopholes large enough to drive a semi through. Without a hard cap, nothing is going to change. Get some larger booster willing and able to to throw 10s of millions into a program they win, look at TT and BYU. It's great for their fan base and school, but how about the rest of the schools?
 
Without a limit of outside sources can spend, you will always have the haves and have-nots. This legislation like most things that come out of DC have loopholes large enough to drive a semi through. Without a hard cap, nothing is going to change. Get some larger booster willing and able to to throw 10s of millions into a program they win, look at TT and BYU. It's great for their fan base and school, but how about the rest of the schools?
There have always been haves and haves nots in college sports, that’s never going to change.

TT really getting a lot of value with their zero playoff wins and BYU is in a simple boat with their very fast exit from the tourny. Money doesn’t win games or championships. Just look at A&M, TT, BYU, etc.

This legislation was mostly about rev share which again, isn’t NIL.
 
Having 30,000 people at a game has a dramatically less money multiplier than 60,000.

You are conflating topics.

This can be funded by a simple maneuver that has nothing to do with any and all existing issues or opportunities related to our State.
Maybe those people at the game go spend money doing something else fun in the State?
 
There have always been haves and haves nots in college sports, that’s never going to change.

TT really getting a lot of value with their zero playoff wins and BYU is in a simple boat with their very fast exit from the tourny. Money doesn’t win games or championships. Just look at A&M, TT, BYU, etc.

This legislation was mostly about rev share which again, isn’t NIL.
Money puts you in the conversation. No money certainly isn’t the way.
 
Money puts you in the conversation. No money certainly isn’t the way.
Plenty of teams with a lot of money aren’t in the conversation, plenty of teams with minimal money have been in the conversation.

College sports have always been the haves and have nots even when all the money was just dirty SEC under the table money
 
Plenty of teams with a lot of money aren’t in the conversation, plenty of teams with minimal money have been in the conversation.

College sports have always been the haves and have nots even when all the money was just dirty SEC under the table money
Yes, the poor Michigan and Michigan State ADs. Which sport are you talking about? What are your examples of minimal money?

Give me a break acting like the money isn’t a large factor.
 
Yes, the poor Michigan and Michigan State ADs. Which sport are you talking about? What are your examples of minimal money?

Give me a break acting like the money isn’t a large factor.
ASU made the playoffs and should have beat Texas if not for ref BS. Arizona is in the final 4 and misplaced 300mil. UConn has won multipule nattys with a fraction of the media deal as a G5.

Yeah money (from outside university sources) gives a ton of options but most of the time the schools doing well in the NIL era are the same ones that were doing well before with some new additions like Indiana, BYU, TT, etc. Makes the sport much more interesting to watch with more players in the game
 
There have always been haves and haves nots in college sports, that’s never going to change.

TT really getting a lot of value with their zero playoff wins and BYU is in a simple boat with their very fast exit from the tourny. Money doesn’t win games or championships. Just look at A&M, TT, BYU, etc.

This legislation was mostly about rev share which again, isn’t NIL.
So since we have always had them, we should not work towards an NFL type of system that evens up the field for everyone.
Again,, without rules regarding and limited NIL, then the revenue sharing does nothing but put a burden on schools that do not have a large media contract.
Money doesn't win games, but it sure as hell help you become competitive, I believe Ohio State won a championship a few years ago with a record $20 million dollar NIL funding. Without reneging NIL your cannot get spending under control, and we will end up with more Marylands, UCLA's and Rutgers, and all those schools are in a money rich media conference.

If you goal is to do an NFL light league with 25 to 30 schools you keep the Wild West spending going, and watch schools drop off because they do not have the funds or large boosters to continue to keep playing the game the way its currently being played money wise.
 
Each school has their own responsibility to get their budget in check. No one is forcing them to pay coaches insane salaries or build new facilities with debt constantly.

For schools without the large donor bases this is a problem of their own making. If no one tells the AD to reign things in then they will keep spending. Just like any budget though it’s on the individual university to do what’s right for them.

The 20mil that is paid out to NIL is covered by every P4 teams media deal.
How you can carry on an argument for 2 paragraphs then finish your post with paragragh 3 is an amazing summary.

You are a smart person but you cannot feel the strain of Iowa State, or the teams of the P4, excluding the big P2. Your 2 favorite teams comfortably sit in the B1G, where the overall money flows about 3x as much as it does for the little P2.

I'm not even sure you can be taken seriously anymore.
 

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