3 point shooting vs Michigan

[isucy86]

It starts with defense. I think we can be a good offense, but not great because we lack great scorers- inside or out. What we have is Halliburton (a 15ppg+) scorer and 5 guys who can score 8-12 ppg.

Guys like Jackson, Grill and Griffin need to give us 25 mpg and not hurt us while in. Play great defense, rebound and be efficient in offense. If we could get 12-15ppg out of that trio- IMO that might be their max this year.

I would love for us to press more. Take advantage of Halliburton'a length. Fast break & turnover points will be a key for this team

In half court offense I think we need to go away from 1-4 sets and pick and roll offense. I see way to much standing around. We need more motion and screening to leverage Halliburton, Nixon and Bolton's offensive skillsets.

 

[Thompsonclone]

so how many practices have you been to?

I already said I don’t see what goes on in practice so I try to be careful when saying saying certain players need more minutes. I do see what happens in the games though so I don’t think it’s unfair to say certain players haven’t heard their minutes based off their play in the games. If those guys are dominating in practice then we need to start seeing it in the games because we haven’t yet.

 

[4theCYcle]

Correct, however last year Halliburton shot over 40%, Bolton around 35%, Mike Jacobson around 34%. We have guys that are okay three point shooters but we haven't made them so far this year. But let's be fair, we've played 5 games. 5. I've seen so many threes of ours this year hover around in the rim and fall out. Every player and sometimes teams go through funks and slumps throughout a year, especially shooting the ball and I think that we might just be rubbing off onto each other. I think we have guys that are almost wishing these shots instead of shooting them with confidence.

Well, I did watch the game in it's entirety when I got home vs only had seen blips at work. The blips were the worst of the worst with the game. So after watching that game I can at least keep a wait and see attitude and say it'll improve some with probably up and down shooting. I recorded yesterdays game as I wasn't home to watch it, I saw they scored over 100 and shot 50% from 3, I hope I can eat crow and this team will start killing it. I'll watch that game right when I get home and then be able to watch SH later tonight.

 

[Statefan10]

Well, I did watch the game in it's entirety when I got home vs only had seen blips at work. The blips were the worst of the worst with the game. So after watching that game I can at least keep a wait and see attitude and say it'll improve some with probably up and down shooting. I recorded yesterdays game as I wasn't home to watch it, I saw they scored over 100 and shot 50% from 3, I hope I can eat crow and this team will start killing it. I'll watch that game right when I get home and then be able to watch SH later tonight.

Hopefully what happened last night was us finally getting some confidence in our shots and by that happening, the ball started to go in. I don't think anyone is thinking we are going to come out and consistently make 15 threes, but I doubt we're as bad of a shooting team as the first few games were suggesting. I think we'll end up being around 35% when the year ends.

 

[CascadeClone]

I only got to see the last 13 minutes or so of yesterday's game, and I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Prohm played 4 guards the entire time (or at least most of) I was watching. Grill played 22 minutes and Jackson played 6. And I find it tough to say that a team that played tough against a very good Michigan team is nowhere near the bubble. That game actually moved us up 8 spots in Kenpom to 40.

You have a fair point about minutes the Mich game. I checked and Solo, MJ, and GC4 had 63 minutes. So basically we played half the game with 2 posts, and half with 1.

My main point on that was going big against Michigan's BIGGER bigs was playing to our opponents strength. And we did that for half the game.

I still think they are going to look great against meh opponents and struggle mightily against good teams. People saying we were close vs Michigan... ISU was down 10 points, 3 minutes into the 2nd half. I don't think it got less than 8 points until under 2 minutes to go. Michigan controlled the game, their win probability was 80%+ almost the entire 2nd half.

Really need SOMEONE to step up offensively; if Bolton or especially Nixon can start hitting 3s, that will open up things a LOT all over the court. I haven't given up hope yet! They usually have started out slow under CSP as they figure things out...

 

[Statefan10]

You have a fair point about minutes the Mich game. I checked and Solo, MJ, and GC4 had 63 minutes. So basically we played half the game with 2 posts, and half with 1.

My main point on that was going big against Michigan's BIGGER bigs was playing to our opponents strength. And we did that for half the game.

I still think they are going to look great against meh opponents and struggle mightily against good teams. People saying we were close vs Michigan... ISU was down 10 points, 3 minutes into the 2nd half. I don't think it got less than 8 points until under 2 minutes to go. Michigan controlled the game, their win probability was 80%+ almost the entire 2nd half.

Really need SOMEONE to step up offensively; if Bolton or especially Nixon can start hitting 3s, that will open up things a LOT all over the court. I haven't given up hope yet! They usually have started out slow under CSP as they figure things out...

Although Alabama was not as good as Michigan, the shots Nixon and Bolton were taking and making were similar to the ones they were taking (and missing) in the Michigan game. Everyone got to see how dangerous this team can be if we start hitting from the outside. I don't expect us to be as good as we were last night, but even being half as good would be a tremendous improvement to how they were the games before.

 

[BoxsterCy]

I just don’t understand why some players are allowed to play through defensive mistakes but others aren’t. We are so bad offensively that I think Tre needs to be given a real chance to stay on the floor. We only have 1 guard right now that has proven he should play over 25 minutes per game. There’s going to be a game where Tre hits 3-4 big threes for us if you play him. Can’t expect him to do anything positive in 7 minutes. I just don’t see him as our 9th man like he’s been the last 3 games.

I don't even mind the quick hook if someone is coaching them up after that and maybe getting them back into the game and not pulling them as "punishment" and to show them up. Not a real fan of the "Go sit on the bench with your dunce hat on, you know what you did wrong!" approach. Also makes a difference if it might be a mistake that's a "one off" or something that's been a repeated problem in practice. The last is something we don't really know regarding a player unless we see the same mistake over and over again in games.

Of course, playing through mistakes is easier to allow in NC against cupcakes, not so easy against tougher P5 teams. Was at the WBB NDSU game last Friday and freshman Maggie Espenmiller-McGraw got extended play time in spite of six turnovers. She had a good night shooting, was decent defending and we were winning going away so it was sort of a low risk good experience builder away from the friendly confines of Hilton. Guessing if this had been Iowa in a few weeks she would have had to grab some bench time.