Doubt we cut him but I guarantee he retires at seasons end
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Saying it doesn’t make it true, he objectively was. Through his first 6 games he was: 75/139 53.9% 2TD 5INT
JJ is 86/159 54.1% 6TD 10INT
You're also forgetting the fact that Allen had a supporting cast of Kelvin Benjamin and Zay Jones as his two best weapons while Mccarthy has inherited a HOF receiver and elite supporting cast also.
Just imagine if JJ were on a team like Tennessee or CLeveland this year.
I’m not forgetting anything, I was responding to his singular incorrect assertion.
Allen had about a 10 point advantage in passer rating
When you watched Allen, you could see potential even then. Not with JJ, at least not yet
So you’re saying JJ will be a Josh Allen type of player? These comparisons are foolish
You guys have the strawmen ready to roll tonight. I responded to your post saying Allen wasn’t THAT bad. He was. Doesn’t mean JJ is the next Josh Allen. Just means your take on Allen was incorrect.
So if you didn't forget about it that means you were well aware of the discrepancy in talent around Allen and JJ in their first year? And that direct comparisons need to be taken with a grain of salt and not just look at raw numbers?
Dude, go yell at clouds or something. He said “Allen wasn’t ever this bad” and he was. That’s it. You’re wanting to put me on some pro JJ opinion that I don’t have.
Wish I saw what the stat was but it was one where he was like 813 out of 814 qualified QBs over like 20 years. The only guy below him was Jamarcus Russell.
Let’s just see how things go the rest of the year and hope he just plays a bunch so he can either get better or show he’s not worth developing and they can try to move on.
Hate the Vikings, yet a lotta admiration for a Viking team that was down 31-0 against the Colts a few years back at halftime...and won.
Unforgettable, namely Cousins.
I'm not a Viking fan. Yes, this game was painful to watch.
Now did Allen have a top 3 WR to throw to? How about a HC who has been referenced as the “QB whisperer”
This is ludicrous. Can people just stop saying “well (insert player) had a rough start, so cut him slack”
Not all situations are equal. JJ has everything going for him for talent to throw to. Strong WR1, very good WR2, very good TE’s. A coach who is offensive minded and a former QB.
Nothing so far shows JJ can be the franchise QB. So stop comparing him to others.
Now do the o line.
Fact is, he could get much better... Or not.
Nothing is certain at this point.
Yes it was fine. It’s struggled overall this year but is back to full strength and played decent last week.
The rest of the talent around him is very good. If they have to depend on being great at every other unit for JJ to be functional then he’s not the guy.
l guess if Brosmer comes in and is respectable, that will tell us a lot.
Last week was the first time all starters have started and 2 were out before the game ended.
And I think we all want McCarthy to be successful. But he has been absolutely terrible so far. Just need to see some progress the rest of this season. Not asking him to be a MVP caliber QB, but fans need to see some glimmer of hope that he can be the QB for the next 10+ years
But comparing him to Allen is just foolish. For every one Allen there are probably 20 other QB’s who never made it
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