2025 NFL Draft

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

I imagine a lot of GMs look at Sanders as a me first kind of player and not a team first player.

 

[JM4CY]

 

[CloneFanInKC]

I generally think the common term of EDGE is ridiculous. Only thing I can think of if the player is in either position DE or OLD depending on the D&D.

I’ve also heard it termed “on the ball rusher” or “off the ball rusher.”

Both terms are too fancy for football; just like “on the ball LBer” and “off the ball LBer”

Stop trying to pretty it up!!!!

*just like “sweeper” in MLB

I’m off my box now

 

[MR82]

Great landing spot for Higgins!

I think the Texans like receivers whose last name start with H? Or they see the talent from ISU!

 

[CloneFanInKC]

I imagine a lot of GMs look at Sanders as a me first kind of player and not a team first player.

Just like daddy

 

[Jer]

God I love Sanders tanking. Maybe he’s a good kid, he just doesn’t act like it nor like he deserves it.

Horrible draft for QBs but man I was never impressed by Shough in any of his 17 seasons.

 

[heitclone]

Sanders is a very poor man’s Caleb Williams with a bigger circus around him. He will probably get drafted today, but I don’t understand why people think he will be good in an NFL system. Deion basically said “go out there and play backyard football” the last 4 years. Nothing to mention, he had phenomenal WR to throw to. When the playing field levels off, I don’t see him actually being good.

Edit: 7 years. I forgot Deion was his HS OC for 3 years. Deion has been able to control basically everything about Sheduer’s football life until this moment, and it’s clear what NFL teams thought about Shedeur.

I dont love Dan Orlovsky but he made a good point about Shedeur being tough to scout. The system he played in at Colorado was gimmicky, not much different than the old Texas Tech or Hawaii teams. Something like 3/4 of his pass attempts were less than 5 yards. He dinked and dunked his way to nice numbers but their gameplan was very QB friendly. He was never the sure thing he thought he was, not performing at the combine and not being great in the interviews didnt' help ease any concerns a team might have. For the circus he'll bring you had really better be sure he's a hit.

 

[Gonzo]

Someone please explain to the old guy when DE got changed to EDGE?

I think it kind of morphed into a DE/OLB hybrid type of skillset maybe? Edge guys today are what, 240ish lbs? Back in the day Reggie White was like 300 lbs, Bruce Smith was probably 270. Today's guys are lighter, faster, less physical more athletic.

 

[madguy30]

I imagine a lot of GMs look at Sanders as a me first kind of player and not a team first player.

They might just look at him as not that good of a player.

I'm not sure if 'me first' matters all that much as long as there's wins and fans/viewership.

 

[ClonerJams]

Speaking of old man rants, why did it go from OLB and MLB to Will and Mike?

 

[AllInForISU]

I dont love Dan Orlovsky but he made a good point about Shedeur being tough to scout. The system he played in at Colorado was gimmicky, not much different than the old Texas Tech or Hawaii teams. Something like 3/4 of his pass attempts were less than 5 yards. He dinked and dunked his way to nice numbers but their gameplan was very QB friendly. He was never the sure thing he thought he was, not performing at the combine and not being great in the interviews didnt' help ease any concerns a team might have. For the circus he'll bring you had really better be sure he's a hit.

This should vindicate Orlovsky. He was taking a lot of crap for his very good and accurate take

 

[Pizzapitter]

Unable to watch. Was there any Higgins video, once drafted?
Sooooo happy for him! #34 is damn impressive.

 

[CycloneVet]

I think it kind of morphed into a DE/OLB hybrid type of skillset maybe? Edge guys today are what, 240ish lbs? Back in the day Reggie White was like 300 lbs, Bruce Smith was probably 270. Today's guys are lighter, faster, less physical more athletic.

Both of those guys were absolute monsters

 

[CloneFanInKC]

They might just look at him as not that good of a player.

I'm not sure if 'me first' matters all that much as long as there's wins and fans/viewership.

GMs don’t give a rip about fans or viewership. Their career is not measured by those.

I agree Wins is what they care about.

 

[AllInForISU]

Speaking of old man rants, why did it go from OLB and MLB to Will and Mike?

It’s all about schemes and how teams adjust. Makes it easier to understand why players flip sides based on the way the offense lines up

 

[CloneFanInKC]

Both of those guys were absolute monsters

HOFers for both, right?

 

[CyValley2]

Shoot at Colorado you don’t even have to be a first rounder to get your jersey retired

Yeah, but, to be fair jersey retirements are for what the athlete did for the school, not what he did or did not accomplishment afterward. Right?

I ain't no fan of the Colorado program, but, geez. . . .

 

[demoncore1031]

Unable to watch. Was there any Higgins video, once drafted?
Sooooo happy for him! #34 is damn impressive.

They showed some highlights on NFL Network.

 

[qwerty]

Speaking of old man rants, why did it go from OLB and MLB to Will and Mike?

It’s all about schemes and how teams adjust. Makes it easier to understand why players flip sides based on the way the offense lines up

Wait . . . You mean not all linebackers are named Will and Mike?

 

[CloneFanInKC]

It’s all about schemes and how teams adjust. Makes it easier to understand why players flip sides based on the way the offense lines up

Generally yes.

LBers were commonly titled Mike, Will, Sam and Jack in mid 90s. Not sure when the terminology was commonly adapted.

I.e. Mike Singletary was referred to as Middle backer. But we would absolutely be a Mike today.