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ClubCy

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My point is that what you said really doesn't even matter if it is true. If Duke is involved in a mash of teams that are similar in any way, they will be ones put on top. Regardless of any other variables/records/etc.
Maybe but maybe not.
 

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I get what you mean but….is Dukes resume all that different than ours?

You could argue ours is slightly better? We have people acting like they haven’t beaten a single team with a pulse this year.

In the committee's eyes it will be. Duke is going to get rewarded for their non con SOS even though their conference slate is a POS. Top to bottom the schedules are probably a wash but I think we all know how this will go.
 

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In the committee's eyes it will be. Duke is going to get rewarded for their non con SOS even though their conference slate is a POS. Top to bottom the schedules are probably a wash but I think we all know how this will go.
Nearly every current projected bracket still has us a 1 seed along with Duke. I’m not going into doomsday mode in January.

They almost lost at home to NCST on Monday. They could lose some.
 

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Barring radical changes (collapses): I see the #1 and #2 seeds as:

Three teams probably locks for #1: Auburn, Duke, Houston
Three teams battling for last #1-top #2: Iowa State, Tennessee, Florida
Three teams battling for last two #2 seeds: Kansas, Purdue, Alabama
Houston is far from a lock for a #1 seed as of today. Strictly how they are playing they definitely should be a 1 seed but their resume just isn't there right now. Definitely have opportunities to get more Q1 wins.

It's a pretty universal top 3 1 seeds as of right now in Auburn, Duke and ISU. Since Tennessee lost last night at home I would guess Florida is the last #1 seed right now. Definitely need to throw Michigan State into the possible 1 and 2 seed list as well
 

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In the committee's eyes it will be. Duke is going to get rewarded for their non con SOS even though their conference slate is a POS. Top to bottom the schedules are probably a wash but I think we all know how this will go.
Ooo I don't think they're a wash..

Duke Non-Con: N Kentucky, @ Arizona, N Kansas, H Auburn, N Illinois
ISU Non-Con: N Auburn, N Dayton, H Marquette, @ Iowa

Advantage Kentucky there. You can make a point that playing @ Iowa in that rivarly game makes it a much tougher game than when you think of Iowa today, but still, Kentucky's non-con was better. Also, Dayton has fallen off. That hurts.

But when comparing conference schedules it's advantage Iowa State by a landslide. Louisville is 25 in the NET and there are four Big 12 teams ahead of them that Iowa State plays 6 times and only get 2 home games. Not only that, but look at these opponents they play..

Notre Dame - 90
NCST - 110
Cal - 117
Virginia - 139
Syracuse - 147
Georgia Tech - 148
Boston College - 223
2x Miami - 241

That's almost half of the ACC and the entire Big 12 is almost higher than that group. Only 3 teams are below Notre Dame and that's KSU (102), Colorado (103), and Oklahoma State (109).
 

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Ooo I don't think they're a wash..

Duke Non-Con: N Kentucky, @ Arizona, N Kansas, H Auburn, N Illinois
ISU Non-Con: N Auburn, N Dayton, H Marquette, @ Iowa

Advantage Kentucky there. You can make a point that playing @ Iowa in that rivarly game makes it a much tougher game than when you think of Iowa today, but still, Kentucky's non-con was better. Also, Dayton has fallen off. That hurts.

But when comparing conference schedules it's advantage Iowa State by a landslide. Louisville is 25 in the NET and there are four Big 12 teams ahead of them that Iowa State plays 6 times and only get 2 home games. Not only that, but look at these opponents they play..

Notre Dame - 90
NCST - 110
Cal - 117
Virginia - 139
Syracuse - 147
Georgia Tech - 148
Boston College - 223
2x Miami - 241

That's almost half of the ACC and the entire Big 12 is almost higher than that group. Only 3 teams are below Notre Dame and that's KSU (102), Colorado (103), and Oklahoma State (109).
I agree with you, but it won't matter, they will look at Dukes overall record and anoint them!
 
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Ooo I don't think they're a wash..

Duke Non-Con: N Kentucky, @ Arizona, N Kansas, H Auburn, N Illinois
ISU Non-Con: N Auburn, N Dayton, H Marquette, @ Iowa


Advantage Kentucky there. You can make a point that playing @ Iowa in that rivarly game makes it a much tougher game than when you think of Iowa today, but still, Kentucky's non-con was better. Also, Dayton has fallen off. That hurts.

But when comparing conference schedules it's advantage Iowa State by a landslide. Louisville is 25 in the NET and there are four Big 12 teams ahead of them that Iowa State plays 6 times and only get 2 home games. Not only that, but look at these opponents they play..

Notre Dame - 90
NCST - 110
Cal - 117
Virginia - 139
Syracuse - 147
Georgia Tech - 148
Boston College - 223
2x Miami - 241

That's almost half of the ACC and the entire Big 12 is almost higher than that group. Only 3 teams are below Notre Dame and that's KSU (102), Colorado (103), and Oklahoma State (109).

I was referring to both schools full schedules, not just non con.
 
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Nearly every current projected bracket still has us a 1 seed along with Duke. I’m not going into doomsday mode in January.

They almost lost at home to NCST on Monday. They could lose some.

Oh I don't disagree but we have a lot more "loseable" games on our schedule than Duke does. Duke is gonna sleep walk to a 1 seed.
 
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Not a huge deal as there are three somewhat advantageous first weekend tournament sites this year in Milwaukee, Wichita, and Denver, but starting to get a little competition for Milwaukee from the Big Ten. Purdue, Wisconsin, and Michigan State are all possibilities there now. Gotta stay ahead of 2 of those 3 in the pecking order.
 
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Not a huge deal as there are three somewhat advantageous first weekend tournament sites this year in Milwaukee, Wichita, and Denver, but starting to get a little competition for Milwaukee from the Big Ten. Purdue, Wisconsin, and Michigan State are all possibilities there now. Gotta stay ahead of 2 of those 3 in the pecking order.
I will be shocked if Wisconsin stays in the mix. They have a pretty tough remaining slate.
 

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Not a huge deal as there are three somewhat advantageous first weekend tournament sites this year in Milwaukee, Wichita, and Denver, but starting to get a little competition for Milwaukee from the Big Ten. Purdue, Wisconsin, and Michigan State are all possibilities there now. Gotta stay ahead of 2 of those 3 in the pecking order.
Good observation.

Even with the KSU debacle, ISU is solid 2 + likely for Milwaukee.

Advantage for B10 is having multiple teams "dancing" within vicinity, seed-wise, those you listed.

[Marquette can't go there, since it's host school, of course.]
 

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If it was possible to sign up for a #1 seed with this bracket even though it's in the West, I would sign up today regardless of how much of the season is left.

this was updated today and still a #1 seed.

 
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If it was possible to sign up for a #1 seed with this bracket even though it's in the West, I would sign up today regardless of how much of the season is left.

this was updated today and still a #1 seed.

I don’t think the ship has completely sailed on a #1 seed but it will be a tough road. Need to probably win out or only drop 1 more (on the road at Houston) and will need the SEC and Big 10 to start taking some losses.
 
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He doesn't even deserve to be mentioned but it is laughable that Palm has us as a 3 seed. But A&M which is NET 14 and KenPom 14 which translates to probably should be a 4 seed...he has as a 2. And Texas Tech which is now NET #8 and KenPom #9 he has as a 5? He's so bad.
 
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