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2019/20 - Beauty and Beast (gymnastics and wrestling)??

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Will there be a "Beauty and Beast" event this year?

I looked at the 2019/2020 schedule and it is not called out:
https://cyclones.com/sports/wrestling/schedule

Looks like there was one in Jan 2017:
https://www.event.iastate.edu/event/41540

...and this says there it is/was "bi-annual", which would mean 2016/17 and 2018/19, then again in 2020/21. If that is 'policy' then seems like not this year:
https://blog.daktronics.com/2017/02...-and-gymnastics-come-together-under-one-roof/

Seems to me they should do it every year! I've never been but thought the kids would be a good age to enjoy.

I think the answer is no for this year, but thanks in advance if anyone can confirm,

As wrestling fans do you like it (promotion, bigger crowd) or dislike (too much distraction, not serious crowd support)?
 
I don't think there is one.

I don't really mind it. I assume with the higher season tickets sales that the wrestling tickets holder on the one end would not like it because the wrestling mat gets moved to the opposite end
 
I would love this for the record. Both daughters are competitive gymnast. We usually make the trip up from KC once a year for a gymnastics meet.
 
Pretty sure Dresser killed this. The wrestling program can stand on its own now, and not need gimmicks to get butts in the seats.

I have two young daughters that do gymnastics. I’ll just take them to a gymnastics meet.
 
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crablegs said:
Pretty sure Dresser killed this. The wrestling program can stand on its own now, and not need gimmicks to get butts in the seats.

I have two young daughters that do gymnastics. I’ll just take them to a gymnastics meet.
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Agree 100% Never was a fan
 
Would love this as my daughter's love gymnastics and son wrestles. Maybe a different format where it's one first then. The next.
 
I thought these events were fantastic. My first was in 2005 or 2006 with both opponents being from Oklahoma and highly ranked. Laura-Kay Powell stuck her floor routine finish just as an ISU wrestler pinned his guy. Perhaps my favorite Hilton moment ever (and I've been to most of the big MBB games).
 
crablegs said:
Pretty sure Dresser killed this. The wrestling program can stand on its own now, and not need gimmicks to get butts in the seats.

I have two young daughters that do gymnastics. I’ll just take them to a gymnastics meet.
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Different football uniforms every week is a "gimmick". Midnight Madness is a "gimmick". Give-aways at pro baseball and football games are "gimmicks". Saying you don't need gimmicks to get butts in seats is insane, especially for Olympic sports at Universities that don't make any money. I understand not doing them at the same time, perhaps a dual ticket or something, but just saying they can do it on their own is being incredibly short sighted. You would think a guy trying to rebuild a once proud program would use all the "gimmicks" he can to get people into Hilton.

He sure isn't using that time and effort on recruiting....
 
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thatguy said:
Different football uniforms every week is a "gimmick". Midnight Madness is a "gimmick". Give-aways at pro baseball and football games are "gimmicks". Saying you don't need gimmicks to get butts in seats is insane, especially for Olympic sports at Universities that don't make any money. I understand not doing them at the same time, perhaps a dual ticket or something, but just saying they can do it on their own is being incredibly short sighted. You would think a guy trying to rebuild a once proud program would use all the "gimmicks" he can to get people into Hilton.

He sure isn't using that time and effort on recruiting....
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Different uniforms has nothing to do with putting butts in the seats.

I’m not sure I understand your last point. Why does he need gimmicks? He’s improving the product on the mat, and that has led to a significant increase in attendance. Best since Cael was a wrestler, to be specific. So, I don’t understand how you can say they need more gimmicks? Seems like what they’re doing is working. In fact it is working beyond any realistic expectations.
 
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crablegs said:
Different uniforms has nothing to do with putting butts in the seats.

I’m not sure I understand your last point. Why does he need gimmicks? He’s improving the product on the mat, and that has led to a significant increase in attendance. Best since Cael was a wrestler, to be specific. So, I don’t understand how you can say they need more gimmicks? Seems like what they’re doing is working. In fact it is working beyond any realistic expectations.
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Different uniforms has to do with revenue and building excitement. Which is what this would do.

My point is, anything helps. Just saying you don't want to do a joint meet with the gymnastics team because you don't need to rely on gimmicks to build revenue is moronic. If the scheduling is to difficult, or you can't get the other school to agree with it, that is one thing, but just saying, ehhh we don't want the extra publicity and fans because we are to short sighted to see the benefits and because we are the 6th highest attended wrestling team is dumb.
 
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Different uniforms has to do with revenue and building excitement. Which is what this would do.

My point is, anything helps. Just saying you don't want to do a joint meet with the gymnastics team because you don't need to rely on gimmicks to build revenue is moronic. If the scheduling is to difficult, or you can't get the other school to agree with it, that is one thing, but just saying, ehhh we don't want the extra publicity and fans because we are to short sighted to see the benefits and because we are the 6th highest attended wrestling team is dumb.
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I see your point in general about gimmicks.

However, I don’t think this gimmick in particular works. Also, I’m not sure any gimmicks work. But I’ve been to this specific one several times, and you can only watch one sport at a time. People come to watch one or the other, and I don’t think it increases attendance, unless you get to double count.
 
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I haven't a clue why Dresser stopped the Beauty and the Beast event. Perhaps it's a temporary hiatus, but I'm sure he had his reasons. Dresser doesn't seem like a rash guy nor one to spurn other sports. He seems to give shout-outs to other Cyclone programs in his interviews quite a bit.

In the short time he has been here, Dresser has kept busy improving things any way he can. He's done a ton of fundraising, reached out and gotten the alumni involved, used crowd-pricing on tickets, wrestled duals in CY Stephens, continues to work to build up our RTC, promotes things with lots of videos, etc.

I wouldn't mind seeing the event return too, but I trust our National Coach of the Year to keep things moving in the right direction.
 
Personally, I also have sons and daughters and this is the only reason I ever see a Gymnastics meet. On the other hand I hope our attendance continues to grow so this isn't feasible in the future. Currently, for non-Iowa meets I think it can still work. It's not a big deal either way. It is a bit weird watching both go on simultaneously.
 
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I liked the beauty and the beast events.. I don't go to any gymnastics meets but it was fun to watch while there were breaks in the wrestling action.
 
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