Donovan Davis announced on May 6th that he committed to the Cyclones!!!

You haven’t kept up with inflation imo

We can’t trust any number we hear on any player salary, which is why $800k sounds about right.

A starting level transfer would be twice that, according to rumors. Even more for top level forwards. That’s why we’re targeting near elite high school guys. If they grow as hoped and are starter level, we get a discount, plus an “in” on following year.

Seems like it’s thought that competitive programs are spending $10 to $15 million this year, with outliers like Louisville above $20 million. I’d think we’re close to $8 to $10 to retain TJ. So $800k for a starter level forward in 2027-28 is on low side



It wasn't to long ago that if you donated like 2 milliion to Iowa State they would name a building or garden or something after your family. Now 5 million buys a 3rd year point guard with upside. At some point a salary cap is gonna have to take place and when that happens the SEC and a few big ten teams will spring out in the lead because we all know they won't play by the rules, they never have.
 
It wasn't to long ago that if you donated like 2 milliion to Iowa State they would name a building or garden or something after your family. Now 5 million buys a 3rd year point guard with upside. At some point a salary cap is gonna have to take place and when that happens the SEC and a few big ten teams will spring out in the lead because we all know they won't play by the rules, they never have.
$5 million would get you an elite pg

A salary cap isn’t possible without CBA and employment imo
 
I’d think we’re close to $8m to $10m to retain TJ


You'll note that the total dollar figure I came to was north of $10m. Individual mileage will vary; maybe we are paying Davis more than other freshmen. Maybe we have a flatter salary structure than I'm assuming. But if we are paying freshman $800k in a typical salary structure where returning and incoming college production is valued much more than freshmen potential, we are blowing past $10m. And maybe we are, I don't know. But I do know the numbers we see tend to be exaggerated because agents have incentive to exaggerate and rumor mills tend to. Schools have no incentive to leak what they actually pay. So while there is inflation happening every year, you can basically count on every number you see for individual players being higher than reality.
 
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It wasn't to long ago that if you donated like 2 milliion to Iowa State they would name a building or garden or something after your family. Now 5 million buys a 3rd year point guard with upside. At some point a salary cap is gonna have to take place and when that happens the SEC and a few big ten teams will spring out in the lead because we all know they won't play by the rules, they never have.
Can you get naming rights to that 3rd year point guard with upside?
 
You'll note that the total dollar figure I came to was north of $10m. Individual mileage will vary; maybe we are paying Davis more than other freshmen. Maybe we have a flatter salary structure than I'm assuming. But if we are paying freshman $800k in a typical salary structure where returning and incoming college production is valued much more than freshmen potential, we are blowing past $10m. And maybe we are, I don't know. But I do know the numbers we see tend to be exaggerated because agents have incentive to exaggerate and rumor mills tend to. Schools have no incentive to leak what they actually pay. So while there is inflation happening every year, you can basically count on every number you see for individual players being higher than reality.
At $10 million roster, $800k for a starter level player is great deal. That doesn’t represent Louisville type money, as you said. Inflation means starter level in portal is twice that

Maybe he’s ends up not being starter level as a freshman, that’s the risk that’s priced in at $800k. As long as he’s good backup, it represents acceptable overpay, given a good backup on transfer market can be $400k+.

It is money ball, taking advantage of the market swinging too far to valuing transfers, making 4-star high school relative values.

We need multi-million sure bets, usually returning guys. Some around $800k for top high school guys or returning players with great upside. Similar to that group are transfers that are discounted because they’re mostly defense or flawed offense, but proven at certain things. Next are lower cost freshman. And then the Mitchell and Mulder types that are at market floor

Next year seems more horizontal. A lot of lower or middle tier salaries. Still a good EV, but maybe not as high because it’s better to be top heavy imo
 
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Just based on the amount of cope that comes from that board and the typical exaggerations that come out of local rumor mills, I'm going guess the real number is 0.25-0.5x that amount. Because of the competition and the rumored going rates in the portal, I'd guess closer to the higher end of that.

The freshmen are always going to be the lowest paid scholarship guys on the team, except for maybe a Mulder type. If all 13 scholarship players make $400k, that's $5.2m. We know that the returners and incoming transfers with proven college production are making more than that, sometimes multiples more. You multiply 1/3rd of the roster by two and another 1/3rd by three, that's $10.4m.

Obviously a lot of assumptions in my numbers but if one the lowest paid players on the roster is making $800k, we are closer to spending Louisville type money than anyone around here has been letting on.

Keep in mind that Pollard allocated $5 million in revenue sharing to the men's basketball team. I have no idea how TJ distributes that $5 million among his players, but if he distributed it evenly among all 13 players, that would equate to almost $400k per player. Any NIL money would be in addition to this revenue share money.
 
$5 million would get you an elite pg

A salary cap isn’t possible without CBA and employment imo
Correct. Need to deal with Anti-trust, collective bargaining, and ultimately, employment related issues like IPERS, workers' compensation, etc. Until then, it is the wild west.
 
I didn't listen to this but I'll note that if he is complaining I'm not listening. He has it made at UConn, a school that will spend all of their money on basketball and none on football.
I didn't listen either. We are somewhat forced to watch Hurley and UConn during the year, especially late. I'm not forced to listen to Hurley here. He may be a good coach, but also is an entitled complainer.
 
These are big numbers when you consider the amount of profit ISU MBB generates. Last year there was a net profit of $8.2 million. NIL is outside the business numbers. 15 million dollars would be 100% of the total revenue generated. Seems like the players are getting more than their "fair share" of the business.
 
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These are big numbers when you consider the amount of profit ISU MBB generates. Last year there was a net profit of $8.2 million. NIL is outside the business numbers. 15 million dollars would be 100% of the total revenue generated. Seems like the players are getting .ore than their "fair share" of the business.
Better to compare to revenue. The pro CBAs don’t split up profits, for example

players are 1st or 2nd most important input, and thus should be getting a huge portion of revenue. Revenues didn’t need to be high and other costs kept low when salary cap was zero.