PETERSON: How much was money a factor in Crooks’ transfer to Oklahoma State?

[jcordova8]

New Randy Peterson column on Audi Crooks’ transfer and the growing role of NIL in women’s basketball. Some interesting points on how money is starting to reshape the sport. Curious where everyone lands on it!

Enjoy!

PETERSON: How much was money a factor in Crooks’ transfer to Oklahoma State? - Cyclone Fanatic

I suspect Audi Crooks is getting more money to attend and play basketball at Oklahoma State than the star post player would have received for returning to Iowa State. I presume that’s the situation, although without seeing an actual contract, we’ll just have to accept what some (allegedly)...

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[BWRhasnoAC]

Looking like Men's basketball will be the only varsity program competing for championships with this current financial landscape.

I'm somewhat hopeful for football but no telling if we keep the staff with that kind of success.

 

[t.m.]

Looking like Men's basketball will be the only varsity program competing for championships with this current financial landscape.

I'm somewhat hopeful for football but no telling if we keep the staff with that kind of success.

If keeping it strictly to "competing for championships", hopeful and football do not belong together.

I will cheer for the football team every week, but they are miles away from a championship. Especially in the Big 12, where it's been shown that even 2nd place isn't making the playoffs.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

If keeping it strictly to "competing for championships", hopeful and football do not belong together.

I will cheer for the football team every week, but they are miles away from a championship. Especially in the Big 12, where it's been shown that even 2nd place isn't making the playoffs.

I'm just trying to give Rogers his fair chance. He's a good coach.

 

[kcdc4isu]

This is the current status of college sports those with the money succeed /win those with less just play and hope. If fans want consistent winners open your wallet and give give give!

 

[bluestarcyclone]

If keeping it strictly to "competing for championships", hopeful and football do not belong together.

I will cheer for the football team every week, but they are miles away from a championship. Especially in the Big 12, where it's been shown that even 2nd place isn't making the playoffs.

The way the current landscape shapes up the best use of resources might be giving football just enough to be respectable (to pay the bills) then dumping most of the rest into basketball where we can actually compete at the top level

 

[bluestarcyclone]

This is the current status of college sports those with the money succeed /win those with less just play and hope. If fans want consistent winners open your wallet and give give give!

Honestly this isn't even a game being played by average fans. This is all a game being played by the types of people that can write one check that outspends a year of grassroots fan fundraising. The schools that have those people will do well in this environment, the schools that don't will struggle.

 

[heitclone]

It's strange to hear people so down about NIL when the NIL era has coincided with our most successful stretches of MBB and FB in the history of the school. It's why Rogers and TJ are able to rebuild their rosters so easily. It's streamlined things, given us access to more players, from places we couldn't before, its never been easier. And we really haven't lost many players in those sports bc of NIL either. I'm probably a bit blinded by TJ and Campbell but to me it feels like we are in a better spot to compete than we were before NIL.

This WBB situation is the first time NIL has really hit us hard. WBB is a sport with much less parity in competition and resources distributed than in MBB and CFB, it has an even bigger gap between the haves and havenots, who is or isn't willing to spend money.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

If she got $1.4 million like was suggested she would be silly not to take it. WNBA salaries are not much, and it's doubtful she is going to be able to play in that league. Throw out the fact that everyone else left, what would be the point of sticking around in Ames and struggle to win games.

 

[swiacy]

Hope is and never has been a strategy that is where one wants to place a program. Money was always "under the table" for the top programs and now that it is legal, the dam has burst. I predict that when the Texas, Ohio States and Alabama's realize that NIL has actually allowed the Texas Tech's and Indiana's to rise to the top, that this free for all will have some rules that stop the carnage. We are not far off from Pay to View subscription services for sports TV viewing. NFL will be first. It's going to get interesting when the general public catches on.

 

[CySmurf]

It's strange to hear people so down about NIL when the NIL era has coincided with our most successful stretches of MBB and FB in the history of the school. It's why Rogers and TJ are able to rebuild their rosters so easily. It's streamlined things, given us access to more players, from places we couldn't before, its never been easier. And we really haven't lost many players in those sports bc of NIL either. I'm probably a bit blinded by TJ and Campbell but to me it feels like we are in a better spot to compete than we were before NIL.

This WBB situation is the first time NIL has really hit us hard. WBB is a sport with much less parity in competition and resources distributed than in MBB and CFB, it has an even bigger gap between the haves and havenots, who is or isn't willing to spend money.

...how long can that competitiveness be sustained with the discrepancy in funding between the haves and have nots though?
When does a coach (like TJ) take a large payday from a blue blood that offers more opportunities with their coffers? It's already happened with our former football coach.

 

[isufbcurt]

Nothing is going to change until coaches quit offering that kind of money. And that isn't going to happen because MOST coaches would rather buy a team than actually coach.

 

[kcdc4isu]

Nothing is going to change until coaches quit offering that kind of money. And that isn't going to happen because MOST coaches would rather buy a team than actually coach.

I would say poor coaches would do that. But the main reason they buy a team is because if they don't win they get fired because the fan base gets on the message boards and demand they are removed.

 

[David Freshman1982]

If she got $1.4 million like was suggested she would be silly not to take it. WNBA salaries are not much, and it's doubtful she is going to be able to play in that league. Throw out the fact that everyone else left, what would be the point of sticking around in Ames and struggle to win games.

If you offered me $1.4MM for something, I might even starting rooting for the Hawkeyes. That's life-changing money for someone who's unlikely to play in the WNBA. And big time money even for those that do. Good for her, I guess. But can't imagine OSU won't regret that expenditure when their arena is 2/3 empty again every night.

 

[goody2012]

Nothing is going to change until coaches quit offering that kind of money. And that isn't going to happen because MOST coaches would rather buy a team than actually coach.

Oh geez, come on. Coaches have always wanted the best players, there's just a different way of getting them now that you appear to have a real problem with.

 

[mred]

If she got $1.4 million like was suggested she would be silly not to take it. WNBA salaries are not much, and it's doubtful she is going to be able to play in that league. Throw out the fact that everyone else left, what would be the point of sticking around in Ames and struggle to win games.

I don't disagree with your points. I just wanted to mention with the new WNBA CBA the rookie minimum salary jumped all the way up to $270k (had been under $70k) and the average salary will be nearly $600k this coming season. $1.4m is still a lot, but WNBA players make a lot more now than they did even last season, and with expansion it'll continue to get easier to stick on a roster than it used to.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Nothing is going to change until coaches quit offering that kind of money. And that isn't going to happen because MOST coaches would rather buy a team than actually coach.

Until guard rails are put back on and they limit the amount of money that can be spent each year on a roster, nothing is going to change. We have reached a sad moment in college sports when a player can make more by staying in college than what they can make playing at the next level. It's great for the athlete but horrible for the schools that do not have the funds to keep providing money each year and the price is going up.

 

[dosry5]

I would say poor coaches would do that. But the main reason they buy a team is because if they don't win they get fired because the fan base gets on the message boards and demand they are removed.

Fired CFB coach is the best job in America. Sign me up.

 

[CYdTracked]

It's strange to hear people so down about NIL when the NIL era has coincided with our most successful stretches of MBB and FB in the history of the school. It's why Rogers and TJ are able to rebuild their rosters so easily. It's streamlined things, given us access to more players, from places we couldn't before, its never been easier. And we really haven't lost many players in those sports bc of NIL either. I'm probably a bit blinded by TJ and Campbell but to me it feels like we are in a better spot to compete than we were before NIL.

This WBB situation is the first time NIL has really hit us hard. WBB is a sport with much less parity in competition and resources distributed than in MBB and CFB, it has an even bigger gap between the haves and havenots, who is or isn't willing to spend money.

Even with NIL we haven't exactly taken our programs to the next level like winning a Big 12 championship would be a start. Haven't ever won one in FB yet, MBB hasn't won one since the 00-01 season and 99-00 for WBB and I am not counting Big 12 tournament championships as winning a championship as just have to get hot in March and win a few games in a row to win them. Under TJ the Sweet 16 is the furthest we have made it in the tournament. I'll take that over what we had under Prohm but we aren't exactly big spenders in the NIL game either or have championships or made it close to competing for one yet for the most part. Not even going to go down the rabbit hole with the WBB team as we all know how that has gone lately.

I am surprised that schools are spending what they are on WBB when even some of the best teams still are not in the green for generating revenue in the sport. You can make a case for that in FB and MBB and no offense to our WBB program as I enjoy watching and supporting them but it does not make sense being a big NIL spender for a sport that doesn't generate revenue. If we really want to maximize NIL spending our MBB program right now is where you would splurge if we could. I don't want to see us fall back to mediocrity or worse in FB but it would cost a lot less in total dollars to pay for a high end MBB roster that could compete for a championship than it will for FB.

 

[pourcyne]

<SARCASM/> Yes, it is turrible that wimmins are now cashing in as well. </SARCASM>

In the Good Ole Days, only the big-boy MEN'S teams could purchase players while the NCAA looked the other way.