Twister Sister Summary - Sisters Win a Foul Fest

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I knew KSU was dangerous. They've played and beaten many good teams in this conference. They showed their tenacity today, but the Sisters had an answer for everything in this whistle happy affair.

 
Sounds like it was a tight, narrow win aided by the absurdity of the refs. Sometimes there's so many "fowls" in a game that you find yourself wishing you had a pair of bird dogs to sniff all the fowls out. I didn't get to watch a single minute of the game today. Just had too many things on the plate. I'm glad they won, because I was afraid they might not.
 
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Sounds like it was a tight, narrow win aided by the absurdity of the refs. Sometimes there's so many "fowls" in a game that you find yourself wishing you had a pair of bird dogs to sniff all the fowls out. I didn't get to watch a single minute of the game today. Just had too many things on the plate. I'm glad they won, because I was afraid they might not.
Iowa State found itself ahead by double digits a couple of times and offensive miscues and a determined Kstate team kept things interesting to the end.
 
Here’s the late timeout controversy. As soon as ISU was pulling the rebound, JW was calling for a timeout. Beaty was signaling for a timeout. Coaches were calling for a timeout…all before a pass was made. Then on the inbounds (I didn’t know this) that a ten second call was made combining the time spent after Willie got the rebound and JW getting the inbounds pass.IMG_4190.jpeg
 
Then on the inbounds (I didn’t know this) that a ten second call was made combining the time spent after Willie got the rebound and JW getting the inbounds pass.

A timeout by the team in possession resets the 10-second count in MBB but not in WBB. The shot clock was already at 25, so ISU only had 5 seconds to get the ball across after the officials fumble ****** the timeout call.
 
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A timeout by the team in possession resets the 10-second count in MBB but not in WBB. The shot clock was already at 25, so ISU only had 5 seconds to get the ball across after the officials fumble ****** the timeout call.
Yeah, I knew in men, a timeout or foul resets the backcourt count. An out of bounds or tie up does not.
In high school, any stoppage resets the backcourt count.
 
Here’s the late timeout controversy. As soon as ISU was pulling the rebound, JW was calling for a timeout. Beaty was signaling for a timeout. Coaches were calling for a timeout…all before a pass was made. Then on the inbounds (I didn’t know this) that a ten second call was made combining the time spent after Willie got the rebound and JW getting the inbounds pass.View attachment 167647

Wut? I don't think I've ever heard of this "10-second rule." It is going to give me something to watch as it seems like it occurs often.
 
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I knew KSU was dangerous. They've played and beaten many good teams in this conference. They showed their tenacity today, but the Sisters had an answer for everything in this whistle happy affair.



I want to take issue a little bit with your statement that "Crooks isn’t getting her 26-27 point games any more thanks to teams collapsing on her as usual." Yes, it is objectively accurate, but I don't think it tells the whole story. The more fundamental issue might be how we get the ball into Crooks (or Willams).

When we bring the ball downcourt, the defense usually was spread out and Crooks was one-on-one with lots of room around her, but we rarely fired the ball into her. Rather, it seemed that most of our passes came after a guard drove close to or into the lane. By then, the double-team had sagged in and there was little room for the pass or a move after receiving the pass.

If we had tried to get the ball into Crooks earlier in the play, she could have had 30 points.
 
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I really like the free throw shooting of JW yesterday. It seemed like her game really came together when she started hitting her medium range jumpers. I wonder if she should be looking for those shots rather than firing 3's earlier in the game in order to help her get her game going earlier.
 
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I want to take issue a little bit with your statement that "Crooks isn’t getting her 26-27 point games any more thanks to teams collapsing on her as usual." Yes, it is objectively accurate, but I don't think it tells the whole story. The more fundamental issue might be how we get the ball into Crooks (or Willams).

When we bring the ball downcourt, the defense usually was spread out and Crooks was one-on-one with lots of room around her, but we rarely fired the ball into her. Rather, it seemed that most of our passes came after a guard drove close to or into the lane. By then, the double-team had sagged in and there was little room for the pass or a move after receiving the pass.

If we had tried to get the ball into Crooks earlier in the play, she could have had 30 points.
Crooks is what made Kenzie Hare open for that 3. Go back and watch as the KState players got hung up on either doubling Crooks or leaving a shooter. KState players got a way late close out.
 
10 seconds to get the ball across mid-court.

When does the 10 second count start? If it starts when the ball goes through the basket, they are missing a lot of violations. I thought it started after the inbounds pass, but apparently it starts before that.
 
When does the 10 second count start? If it starts when the ball goes through the basket, they are missing a lot of violations. I thought it started after the inbounds pass, but apparently it starts before that.
It starts when the ball is live after the first deadball. In plain speak, that is when the ball is touched in bounds (live ball) after the ball was out of bounds (made basket or turnover). With the introduction of the shot clock, the 10 second backcourt count is controlled by the shot clock value (thus why it is important that the shot clock is accurate). Before that, it was a physical count by the trail official.