wife does so basically daily, and at least once a month for us, have made a few 300+ mile trips within the last year even too.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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Like I said earlier, we have software that monitors our Tesla charging. Last year we went on three road trips that involved us driving more than 250 miles in one day. So we had 6 days of charging with Tesla, the other 359 days it got charged in the garage.
Nailed it. And when it comes down to it, almost everyone will opt for a used EV, rather than this new option.
Here are some updated stats. A few things to keep in mind:
These are the current stats. It's currently sitting somewhere in Ankeny. The battery is at 73%, which means it has 229 miles of range left. She has the air set at 66 when she is driving, and I'm guessing she has it sitting in the sun because it's 125 degrees inside. The glass tops really bring in a lot of heat but she has white leather, which helps. If we lived somewhere warm, I would find a solution.
This gives some stats on the battery. With 12k miles on the battery, it has a 3.8% degregration. 3.8% is pretty high for only 12k miles, but that's common at first and I'm seeing it start to slow down. It sounds like if we kept it 200k miles, we'd see around a 15% degregration, which means the range would go down to 280 miles. The battery has an 8 year/120k mile warranty, which is a lot longer than we'll keep it. Once we retire in 5 years or so, I'd like to move to 1 vehicle, which will 100% be another BEV.
Total charging cost and average cost per kWh are a combination of both charging at home and at Superchargers. My home rate is 0.11 kWh and the Tesla Superchargers usually run around .40 kWh. Unlike other areas, I don't get a discount based on TOD charging, although 11 cents is pretty cheap. As you can see, 99% of the time we're charging at home.
For comparison, my Kia gets about 21 mpg overall. If I paid $3/gallon and drove 11,164 miles, it would cost me $1,594 vs. $474 in Electricity. Plus about $400 more in maintenance on the Kia. Plus the Tesla is faster than the muscle car that I had that got 10mpg and broke down every other week
More charging stats
This will give you an idea of what outdoor temps have on efficiency. Keep in mind that my wife probably doesn't help this stat since she'll preheat the car before she goes anywhere in the winter.
Places she goes
- It's my wifes car, she works at home, so not that many miles.
- At home, we charge it to 80% with a Level 2 charger
- Most of my Tesla Superchargers are in Dows, Iowa. My mother lives on the Minnesota/Iowa border and about 1/2 the time we take the Tesla.
- A few thousand miles are not accounted for in these calculations. I didn't run the software in the beginning, and I had a stretch where it wasn't logging and I didn't know. The 12k miles on the odometer is correct though.
- I'm surprised this software is still running. Tesla was supposed to turn off the free API a few months ago.
These are the current stats. It's currently sitting somewhere in Ankeny. The battery is at 73%, which means it has 229 miles of range left. She has the air set at 66 when she is driving, and I'm guessing she has it sitting in the sun because it's 125 degrees inside. The glass tops really bring in a lot of heat but she has white leather, which helps. If we lived somewhere warm, I would find a solution.
This gives some stats on the battery. With 12k miles on the battery, it has a 3.8% degregration. 3.8% is pretty high for only 12k miles, but that's common at first and I'm seeing it start to slow down. It sounds like if we kept it 200k miles, we'd see around a 15% degregration, which means the range would go down to 280 miles. The battery has an 8 year/120k mile warranty, which is a lot longer than we'll keep it. Once we retire in 5 years or so, I'd like to move to 1 vehicle, which will 100% be another BEV.
Total charging cost and average cost per kWh are a combination of both charging at home and at Superchargers. My home rate is 0.11 kWh and the Tesla Superchargers usually run around .40 kWh. Unlike other areas, I don't get a discount based on TOD charging, although 11 cents is pretty cheap. As you can see, 99% of the time we're charging at home.
For comparison, my Kia gets about 21 mpg overall. If I paid $3/gallon and drove 11,164 miles, it would cost me $1,594 vs. $474 in Electricity. Plus about $400 more in maintenance on the Kia. Plus the Tesla is faster than the muscle car that I had that got 10mpg and broke down every other week
More charging stats
This will give you an idea of what outdoor temps have on efficiency. Keep in mind that my wife probably doesn't help this stat since she'll preheat the car before she goes anywhere in the winter.
Places she goes
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Had a chance to visit a Rivian store and a Lucid store last week out in Pasadena. I really liked the Rivians, if I was in the market for a new vehicle that would be pretty high up on my list. The Lucid was nice but... seemed awful stuffy, at least for me. I get it that upscale luxury is the market Lucid is going after but that's not really my thing.
I'm probably 5 years out from vehicle shopping but with the BEV truck options that I think I'll have between the Ford, Chevy/GMC, Rivian and Scout I'm going to go through some serious analysis paralysis.
I'm probably 5 years out from vehicle shopping but with the BEV truck options that I think I'll have between the Ford, Chevy/GMC, Rivian and Scout I'm going to go through some serious analysis paralysis.
If you had got the original Chevy volt like 16 years ago you’d have basically had the cheapest fueling car possible. Ditto for the EV Nissan Leaf whenever it came out like 10-12 years ago. With no downside for your use.
Anyone else catch the Sunday Morning Show episode on Waymo cars?
Basically electric driver-less taxi cabs in a handful of cities.
I have seen them in PHX and they use Jaguars - which look pretty sharp.
Basically electric driver-less taxi cabs in a handful of cities.
I have seen them in PHX and they use Jaguars - which look pretty sharp.
Here are some updated stats. A few things to keep in mind:
- It's my wifes car, she works at home, so not that many miles.
- At home, we charge it to 80% with a Level 2 charger
- Most of my Tesla Superchargers are in Dows, Iowa. My mother lives on the Minnesota/Iowa border and about 1/2 the time we take the Tesla.
- A few thousand miles are not accounted for in these calculations. I didn't run the software in the beginning, and I had a stretch where it wasn't logging and I didn't know. The 12k miles on the odometer is correct though.
- I'm surprised this software is still running. Tesla was supposed to turn off the free API a few months ago.
These are the current stats. It's currently sitting somewhere in Ankeny. The battery is at 73%, which means it has 229 miles of range left. She has the air set at 66 when she is driving, and I'm guessing she has it sitting in the sun because it's 125 degrees inside. The glass tops really bring in a lot of heat but she has white leather, which helps. If we lived somewhere warm, I would find a solution.
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This gives some stats on the battery. With 12k miles on the battery, it has a 3.8% degregration. 3.8% is pretty high for only 12k miles, but that's common at first and I'm seeing it start to slow down. It sounds like if we kept it 200k miles, we'd see around a 15% degregration, which means the range would go down to 280 miles. The battery has an 8 year/120k mile warranty, which is a lot longer than we'll keep it. Once we retire in 5 years or so, I'd like to move to 1 vehicle, which will 100% be another BEV.
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Total charging cost and average cost per kWh are a combination of both charging at home and at Superchargers. My home rate is 0.11 kWh and the Tesla Superchargers usually run around .40 kWh. Unlike other areas, I don't get a discount based on TOD charging, although 11 cents is pretty cheap. As you can see, 99% of the time we're charging at home.
For comparison, my Kia gets about 21 mpg overall. If I paid $3/gallon and drove 11,164 miles, it would cost me $1,594 vs. $474 in Electricity. Plus about $400 more in maintenance on the Kia. Plus the Tesla is faster than the muscle car that I had that got 10mpg and broke down every other week
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More charging stats
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This will give you an idea of what outdoor temps have on efficiency. Keep in mind that my wife probably doesn't help this stat since she'll preheat the car before she goes anywhere in the winter.
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Places she goes
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Your gas vs electric $1,594 vs. $474.
I happen to have the exact same $0.11 electric rate here in CA, but $5/gallon gas. So the $2800 vs $474 is why pretty much anybody buying or leasing new is going electric if they can charge at home.
Yes, great story. Very similar to how a lot of people were hesitant to do Uber at first. This will be such a life saver (literally) in the future. I wonder how much staff they have to have on hand to manage the cars in case something goes wrong, plug it in, clean the car, etc. The only downside I've heard is that Waymo is more expensive than Uber/Lyft to use.
Computers driving only with other computer drivers is going to be much safer and more efficient
Especially for pedestrians. I think human drivers would’ve killed me as a pedestrian 100s of times in LA if I trusted them to stop at stop signs. I assume they will kill me rather than respect a stop sign and I’m right a few times a month.
Think of how safe and efficient it will be when all the humans are dead and gone.
Was out in Silicon Valley for work a few weeks ago. So wild to see so many Waymos around, and also how well they handle being surrounded by human drivers. Can only imagine how much simpler maneuvering would be once machine-driven cars can communicate with each other.
How is your electric so low? I think some problem CA has here are the increasing electric rates from the fires, etc. If the average is .31 for California the math gets harder.
I’m Burbank time of use plan that averages to about 11 cents. Virtually free at night but expensive from 4pm-7pm during the 4 hot months July-Oct. My ev probably more like 5 cents.
Even using what is essentially a non existent worst case scenario for home charging, with an electricity rate of 31 cents and relatively low Iowa gas prices it would still be a little over a 16% savings versus gas in dmclone's use case ($1,594 vs $1,336).
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No doubt, it’s just difficult to use blanket statements for states like that because some electric rates are much higher than the $.31 even by city and hide time of day benefits. Just a preference for transparency. In the pnw it’s more universal that the electric rate is low.
