Heisman

Hunter should’ve been the runaway winner.

A lot of voters can’t break from “best qb on a top 3 team” formula.

This is a fun rare year the best player actually won, possible he only beat the formula because of celebrity coach. Also a rare year defense isn’t completely ignored.

Gino Torretta over Marshall Faulk is when I realized most voters intentionally don’t vote for the best player. Faulk was 100% obviously a drastically better football player than the winner.
 
There has never been a Heisman winner on a team that didn’t finish .500 or better. Was he deserving? Sure. But it’s not like Wuerfell was a scrub though, at the time, 39 TDs ranked 4th all time for a season in college football history.
Paul houring says hi.
 
Troy Davis definitely deserved to win it after back to back years of 2000+ rushing yards. The problem was ISU football was still a doormat program at that time so I don't blame the voters. If we were going to a bowl game 1 of those years he probably wins easily. Just like the NFL, usually the MVP plays for a winning team so to pick a Heisman winner for a team that doesn't make the postseason usually does not happen.

Hunter was a well deserving winner. He is a rare 2 way player but even if he just played offense he still would have been there tonight on that alone. Just glad it didn't go to a QB as the Heisman has pretty much become a QB award lately.

Breece not winning Doak Walker his sophomore year was a total joke. Then junior year he was statistically tied for best output, you’d think he’d get it for the two year stretch but no.
 
NFL guy on our local radio said the opposite. Said he’d play WR and come in as the nickelback on 3rd downs or when needed.

He’s a way better WR than Deion was.

Who knows how good Deion could’ve been at wr if he played as many downs at fsu as Hunter is. Obviously worked out as maybe best db ever, certainly of his era.
 
Maybe it changed before that time but IMHO I've never viewed it the same since. I'm assuming your a millennial or Gen z... good ******* luck to you
What exactly was your complaint? Danny Wuerffel was at the time the most prolific passer in college football history and playing on the #1 team until the Fiesta Bowl. Davis got a ton of yards in meaningless games against a lot of backup defenses. ISU goes 6-5 and Davis goes for 300 in a win vs. Nebraska or Colorado and he wins. Going for 200 yds in a 30 point loss isn't going to sway voters
 
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What exactly was your complaint? Danny Wuerffel was at the time the most prolific passer in college football history and playing on the #1 team until the Fiesta Bowl. Davis got a ton of yards in meaningless games against a lot of backup defenses.

I don't know where you're getting this.

This would say many of the games were close so he wouldn't have been seeing back ups.
 
I don't know where you're getting this.

This would say many of the games were close so he wouldn't have been seeing back ups.
Go look at his game splits. For example he goes 34-138 against Nebraska. I can guarantee you most of his yards came against 2nd and 3rd team defense. He never had a superb game against any of the Big 8's best defenses or teams. He just didn't.
 
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Go look at his game splits. For example he goes 34-138 against Nebraska. I can guarantee you most of his yards came against 2nd and 3rd team defense. He never had a superb game against any of the Big 8's best defenses or teams. He just didn't.

So 138 yards in one game makes it a thing all season?

How did he get OPOY if it was all against back ups?

He didn't have 225 yards against #14 KSU? A 35-20 game?
 
So 138 yards in one game makes it a thing all season?

How did he get OPOY if it was all against back ups?

He didn't have 225 yards against #14 KSU? A 35-20 game?
He goes 39-130 against A&m. Where were his big games against good teams? Going 40-150yds in blowout loses takes away a lot of luster. Where was a 250 yd game against K-State or Nebraska?
 
Troy did things no one had done before, and that I think have only been repeated since after teams started regularly playing 12 regular-season games and bowl game stats starting counting (Troy put up his totals in 11 games). This is the main reason I was upset he didn't win the Heisman in either year, especially in Year 2 / 1996.
 
Troy did things no one had done before, and that I think have only been repeated since after teams started regularly playing 12 regular-season games and bowl game stats starting counting (Troy put up his totals in 11 games). This is the main reason I was upset he didn't win the Heisman in either year, especially in Year 2 / 1996he
He was great. Impressive when the other team knew he was getting the ball. The Missouri game was one of the best rushing performances in NCAA history. A lot of the games he was going over 100yds late in games in blowout loses though. I was there.
 
He goes 39-130 against A&m. Where were his big games against good teams? Going 40-150yds in blowout loses takes away a lot of luster. Where was a 250 yd game against K-State or Nebraska?

You are ******* high if you think he was still going against 1st string defenses late in some of those blowout loses.

Well I'll say, that's quite a deal to get OPOY in a tough league if it was all against back ups.

Weird they didn't take that into account when giving out the award.

What a terrible legendary season.
 
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Well I'll say, that's quite a deal to get OPOY in a tough league if it was all against back ups.

Weird they didn't take that into account when giving out the award.

What a terrible legendary season.
Jfc dude here is the game splits from his career. . He has most of his yds in 4 games. Honestly other than like a handful of games he averages like 120ypg. I'm sure nostalgia makes it seem like a lot more. I get it.