Does anyone have a breakdown of run plays based on distance and down? I'm curious 'where' we're supposedly such a bad run defensive team.
Arizona State Matchup
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QB run. There have been a lot of big runs by QBs against us all year
We are a bend and don’t break defense. We don’t care about yardage and will give up runs here and there. We tighten up as the field shortens and force FG tries or have them make a mistake.
Throw in we were starting a lot of 4th string linebackers for a few games and it made for poorer stats.
And ASU is not very good at finishing drives, which is actually surprising given their running game. Arizona State ranks 113 in red zone TD % for the year.
Edit: I was looking at redzone scoring %. AZ State redzone TD% is 65.2%, which is 53rd. For comparison, ISU is 64th at 61.8%. AZ State doesn't have a reliable kicker, so they have some missed FG's from short distances and I would tend to believe without looking at data that they would tend to go for it on 4th down at a higher rate than other teams
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We'll likely know tonight if they matter or not. If Boise wins, they won't matter at all. If UNLV wins a close one, I feel very confident style points won't matter. If UNLV blows Boise Out, style points probably matter some.
That said, play to win the game. It's the one and only goal remaining this season.
Winner gets in, most likely without a bye or home game no matter what. So not really. I mean, if one team dominates, that helps them somewhat, sure and if other things break a certain way, then it becomes more possible but short answer? Likely won't change much.
Man, I watched the preview and it just seemed like a down playing of Leavit. I've watched Arizona State several times, and the kids good. IMO, he's really good. Yes, he's without his best receiver but he is really athletic and we've not fared that well against really athletic QB's and arguably, I'm going to say this.
He's the best quarterback we'll have played all season.
He throws it better than Daniels.
But runs it better than some of the pocket passers.
Now, he's young, so he's inexperienced and without his best wide receiver. But went 4 to 1 TD to INT against BYU and K-State while completing 62-63% of his passes and ran for 42 yards (8.4) per attempt against the purple kitties. He's not used as a runner a ton but without Tyson, I can see them using him more coupled with our struggles against mobile Quarterbacks.
Ran for 68 against Miss State, 77 against Kansas. So its the playbook and he's got the ability.
4 games of at least 10 carries.
3 more of 8+.
Style points are how Indiana is where it is. Margin of victory has been rebranded as "Game Control", and all of the close games in the Big 12 make "Game Control" numbers look bad compared to the blowouts in other leagues.
I completely agree. I was surprised Williams and Blum so readily chalked up the QB position as a clear advantage for ISU.
Yeah, same. I was a little un-nerved by it to be honest. At best, I'd say it's a wash. Because he does the one thing that Rocco sometimes struggles with and that's taking care of the football. So just judging the two players and nothing else, I just don't know what's that based on objectively.
Like if you compared the two in a vacuum - Leavitt's got a higher % percentage, fewer INT's, more TD's, better QBR, higher yards per completion and has been a more effective rusher. Rocco's got the yardage but he's also thrown 103 more passes.
How you look at that matchup as some kind of huge advantage... IDK. Rocco's a 3rd year, Leavitt's a 2nd year - so it's not like eithers some grandpa Bob back there. Both play for offenses that want to run the ball and possess it.
Again, I get the no Tyson factor. And that might limit Leavitt some. That I 100% understand.
But man.... that kid down there is good. And he 100% is good enough to give us all kinds of problems tomorrow.
I hope he struggles cause that means Iowa State's probably in a good position. But I feel like they are way off in how much they down played him.
Terrible take. It’s almost as if you’ve already forgotten about the Iowa qb.
Man, I never forget those who give me so much joy in watching them play. McNamara deserves a 77th year in Iowa City as far as I'm concerned. Unlimited elgibility.Terrible take. It’s almost as if you’ve already forgotten about the Iowa qb.
Didn't CW say Lipsey's not hurt even though it's been repeated on broadcasts per TJ's words?
Ya'll are going to have to at least buy us dinner first.
Good thing Iowa was in September, and vs UCF and KU we were not as healthy
Just looked this up myself, if you take out the QB rushing, ISU is only allowing 116.66 ypg, which would be good enough for 2nd in the B12 this year.
Mobile QB's kill us, and i think the reason for that is LB injuries and inexperience.
After looking at that stat, and the LBs that we have back healthy, my anxiousness for tomorrow has turned to full on excitement!
On your second two, just to confirm I understand:
A close UNLV win puts ISU (as the presumptive Big 12 Champ) in the top 4 seeeds, but if they blow out BSU there is some concern about UNLV jumping ISU?
On the first point, do you think that Clemson can’t jump ISU no matter how decisively they beat SMU?
I hadn’t even considered “style”, assuming either a UNLV or Clemson win puts ISU in the #4 spot (and #3 if both win).
I think the ACC champ will be ahead of the Big XII champ no matter what, so their game doesn't factor into whether or not style points matter.
It will be tougher for UNLV to make that same jump, but if they demolish the #10 team and we scrape by the #15 team, it wouldn't shock me.
Ultimately, we don't 100% know for sure what the committee is going to do, but it feels like they've telegraphed their thoughts somewhat clearly.
For Iowa State: just win the damn game.
