***OFFICIAL CFP Rankings Show Watch Thread***

[harimad]

Big 12 starts their own 4 team playoff
ACC starts their own 4 team playoff
Winners play each other in January
Bam problem solved
Phase out all scheduling with B10 and SEC
Gets some guts Brett

I don't care how the conferences do it. But just give them their allotted slots and let them send whoever they want to the invitational.

B1G/SEC - 4 teams each
ACC/B12 - 2 teams each
G5s - 1 team each

Slot them into a bracket with a play-in game to face #1 and let's give the committee the job of seeding people instead of deciding who's in and who's out.

 

[Cyclonsin]

Big 12 starts their own 4 team playoff
ACC starts their own 4 team playoff
Winners play each other in January
Bam problem solved
Phase out all scheduling with B10 and SEC
Gets some guts Brett

Goodbye, media revenue.

 

[madguy30]

No they aren’t. What conference championship game is currently not hosting the two best teams? Big ten is fine, SEC is fine, Big12 is fine, ACC is fine, where is this even coming from? I haven’t heard this argument anywhere else

I think this is generally fine because these are the teams that were the most consistent at the right time.

That said, I wish we lived in a magical (OK, ******* REALLY magical) world where each conference was 10 teams and played a round robin schedule, and the playoffs included the conference title games, to then break down further after that.

The Big 12 fell into their 10 teams, and it wasn't great overall, but the round robin schedule made a more interesting season and more interesting year to year situations.

 

[ClubCy]

Big 12 starts their own 4 team playoff
ACC starts their own 4 team playoff
Winners play each other in January
Bam problem solved
Phase out all scheduling with B10 and SEC
Gets some guts Brett

LOL please elaborate what that would accomplish? Other than further moving us being considered G5?

 

[madguy30]

Big 12 starts their own 4 team playoff
ACC starts their own 4 team playoff
Winners play each other in January
Bam problem solved
Phase out all scheduling with B10 and SEC
Gets some guts Brett

This is mailing it in as minor leagues and I think would decimate many of those programs.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

That's great. Now do Penn State. I didn't imagine 7-5 Minnesota losing that game far more than Penn State winning it. Nor was the OT game at 6-6 USC imaginary either. Illinois is their best win I think?

Still won the games and are loaded with talent. I don’t like PSU, think they will most likely lose their first playoff game and have zero shot against Oregon. But they are better than Indiana by a lot.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I don't care how the conferences do it. But just give them their allotted slots and let them send whoever they want to the invitational.

B1G/SEC - 4 teams each
ACC/B12 - 2 teams each
G5s - 1 team each

Slot them into a bracket with a play-in game to face #1 and let's give the committee the job of seeding people instead of deciding who's in and who's out.

This was proposed and rejected by the Big12 and ACC

 

[madguy30]

Goodbye, media revenue.

Crank that CyTV back up!

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Why do you think that’s coming? I know there is that supposed BIG/SEC partnership but I’ll believe that when I see it.

The B1G and SEC creating yet another lever to pull to road block the other conferences? Yeah, who could see that coming....

The B1G and SEC will play one OOC game against each other and the rest will be FCS and non power 4 schools. Put it in ink because it will 100% happen.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The B1G and SEC creating yet another lever to pull to road block the other conferences? Yeah, who could see that coming....

The B1G and SEC will play one OOC game against each other and the rest will be FCS and non power 4 schools. Put it in ink because it will 100% happen.

I’m sure it will get some buzz to generate more media money, but until the 4-4-2-2 gets adopted I don’t see it.

 

[isucy86]

No they aren’t. What conference championship game is currently not hosting the two best teams? Big ten is fine, SEC is fine, Big12 is fine, ACC is fine, where is this even coming from? I haven’t heard this argument anywhere else

I agree, hard to argue the CCG teams this season from a conference record perspective, but:

• My guess is Ohio State fans would point to their being the ONLY Big10 team that played 4 of the top 6 Big10 teams this season. Otherwise the most is 2 games: Oregon(2), PSU(2), Indiana(1), Illinois(2) & Iowa(1). But without divisions, with 16 & 18 team conferences there will be unbalanced SOS within conferences.
• Hurricane fans could point to their much higher ranking than Clemson (12 vs. 17). But give Clemson credit for a tough non-conference schedule with Georgia and South Carolina. Whereas Miami played Florida and 2 G5 and an FCS team.

The bigger argument might be the value of having CCG's in a 12 team playoff set-up. Sure the top 4 CCG winners get a Playoff bye. But Ohio State, Indiana, Tennessee and Bama are getting a bye weekend to get healthy while the Big10 & SEC CCG loser gets no rest.

And in the case of SMU, their fans are upset they will drop out of the CFP if they lose their 13th game, while SEC & Big10 teams watching on TV can't hurt their standing with only 12 games.

 

[alenz95]

I don't know if this has been brought up yet. For everyone wondering why Boise is at #4 despite a weak SOS, remember at he beginning of the season when there was talk of moving home playoff games to a neutral venue if the home team didn't have the infrastructure to accommodate the game? With that in mind it becomes very easy for the committee to let whoever ends up at #5 play on a neutral site when Boise's stadium is deemed "too small" or "too cold".

 

[CoachHines3]

I don't know if this has been brought up yet. For everyone wondering why Boise is at #4 despite a weak SOS, remember at he beginning of the season when there was talk of moving home playoff games to a neutral venue if the home team didn't have the infrastructure to accommodate the game? With that in mind it becomes very easy for the committee to let whoever ends up at #5 play on a neutral site when Boise's stadium is deemed "too small" or "too cold".

If Boise is #4 that game is a bowl game so its neutral anyway.

Plus if you're hosting a home playoff game, its up to you, the school, I think to make the decision if you want to play it there or neutral site.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

If you think Indiana is better than Penn state you haven’t been paying attention. They just don’t have the talent to hand with actual good teams. It’s why they got boat races by OSU and barely beat a very rough Michigan team.

Now the James Franklin effect might make that game closer than it should be but Indiana just isn’t close to competing at that level. PSU isn’t even that good but Indiana doesn’t have the talent

"Talent" is how we got BS stuff like the "eye test" and how FPI is a metric that is far too used since it used recruiting rankings.

In that case. **** playing the games. Just crown who Vegas would favor.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

If Boise is #4 that game is a bowl game so its neutral anyway.

Plus if you're hosting a home playoff game, its up to you, the school, I think to make the decision if you want to play it there or neutral site.

COVID year would've been interesting to see how many did neutral sites to have more fans.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

"Talent" is how we got BS stuff like the "eye test" and how FPI is a metric that is far too used since it used recruiting rankings.

In that case. **** playing the games. Just crown who Vegas would favor.

Got to play the games but “talent” is a huge metric for success at the highest level. Obv it’s not an automatic win but it certainly plays a very large roll.

 

[harimad]

This was proposed and rejected by the Big12 and ACC

Really? Exactly that format (17 teams, exactly that proportion)? Wow. Bad decision if so.

 

[CoachHines3]

If we get that 12 seed, we more than likely will be playing the same team we would of if we got the 4 seed.

The issue I have with it is 1) its on the road and 2) its an extra week to get healthy.

 

[Statefan10]

Got to play the games but “talent” is a huge metric for success at the highest level. Obv it’s not an automatic win but it certainly plays a very large roll.

Talent definitely matters to success until the team drops some games and then the media screams "bUT tHeir tAlent" and then they place them over teams with less losses because the "talented" team would win in a hypothetical game.

And the recruiting rankings are extremely flawed as well when you have a guy who gets bumped to a high 4 star after receiving a single offer from a top tier team.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Really? Exactly that format (17 teams, exactly that proportion)? Wow. Bad decision if so.

14 teams 4 for big ten and SEC, 2 each for ACC and Big12, 1 for G5 and 1 at large which was presumably so ND had a way to get in.

Thought it was a bad decision in this time although many on this board agreed saying they should have access to 3. Unfortunately with greed I don’t know if that offer will get put back on the table or if the SEC will demand more. Big ten might also want more but there have only ever really been 4 good big ten teams per season they just rotate a bit (I’m counting the new additions as that 4)