***OFFICIAL CFP Rankings Show Watch Thread***

[CydeofFries]

All this shows me is there's no reason to play a championship game. The "extra data point" isn't needed, especially since only playing 8 conference games apparently increases your rankings (looking at you SEC) and will just give the Big12's second team (or top team) an extra loss.

The Big12 could assign a champion any way they see fit.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

No, there aren't quite from the committee, but why on Earth would you trust anything they say?

And it's not about being fair. It never has been. UGA vs OSU drew more than 22 million viewers (5 million more than The Game) and that's why they did it.

It's an entertainment product designed to maximize viewership. And that's all the CFP has ever been.

Ok so you have no factual basis for any of this, and are just choosing to ignore what actually happened.

 

[HFCS]

BYU has two top 20 wins. What have Texas and Penn St done?

Indiana's schedule so far is worse than most G5 schools...admittedly they have crushed that schedule but their game against Ohio State will be first/only real test.

 

[HFCS]

All this shows me is there's no reason to play a championship game. The "extra data point" isn't needed, especially since only playing 8 conference games apparently increases your rankings (looking at you SEC) and will just give the Big12's second team (or top team) an extra loss.

The Big12 could assign a champion any way they see fit.

6 > 13 >>>>>>> 12

That's seriously the math the CFP has given us about the # of data points that matters.

 

[Cyclonsin]

Ok so you have no factual basis for any of this.

Of course not. Neither do you.

But I strongly believe there's no way the CFP would have turned down the opportunity to have UGA, Michigan, USC, and Ohio State all in.

I genuinely appreciate your optimism on the topic, though. Sincerely. It's a breath of fresh air.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

Of course not. Neither do you.

But I strongly believe there's no way the CFP would have turned down the opportunity to have UGA, Michigan, USC, and Ohio State all in.

I genuinely appreciate your optimism on the topic, though. Sincerely. It's a breath of fresh air.

Thank you good sir. If nothing else tonight, I’ll choose to be optimistic.

But, my factual basis is TCU actually was the third seed vs OSU being the 4th.

We can agree to disagree

 

[StPaulCyclone]

All this shows me is there's no reason to play a championship game. The "extra data point" isn't needed, especially since only playing 8 conference games apparently increases your rankings (looking at you SEC) and will just give the Big12's second team (or top team) an extra loss.

The Big12 could assign a champion any way they see fit.

Keep in mind we had a couple of B12 v. B12 nonconference games that meant a couple teams took a loss that they probably shouldn’t have.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

All this shows me is there's no reason to play a championship game. The "extra data point" isn't needed, especially since only playing 8 conference games apparently increases your rankings (looking at you SEC) and will just give the Big12's second team (or top team) an extra loss.

The Big12 could assign a champion any way they see fit.

Championship games bring in a lot of money to each conference, they are not going to give that money up unless some network is willing to up what they are paying, which they are not going to do without a championship game.

 

[cyclones500]

I haven't had time yet to read the entire piece, but here's "Anger Index."

An eye-(test)-opening segment in the BYU summary (italics are mine):

BYU has played roughly the same quality schedule as Texas, and has two wins against other teams ranked in the committee's top 25, as many as Ohio State, Texas, Penn State, Tennessee and Indiana combined.

College Football Playoff Anger Index: B1G love, BYU disrespect and more outrage

Unpacking which teams should be most upset with the first CFP rankings of the year.

www.espn.com

 

[CascadeClone]

No, there aren't quite from the committee, but why on Earth would you trust anything they say?

And it's not about being fair. It never has been. UGA vs OSU drew more than 22 million viewers (5 million more than The Game) and that's why they did it.

It's an entertainment product designed to maximize viewership. And that's all the CFP has ever been.

Yep. Eye test doesnt mean "do they look like a great team". It means "how many eyeballs does your team bring to the tv"

 

[CycloneSpinning]

BYU is the biggest screw job of the new CFP so far

I tend to agree. I think BYU should be top 5 or 6 at this point. I’m also surprised Alabama is in.

 

[CycloneSpinning]

Indiana's schedule so far is worse than most G5 schools...admittedly they have crushed that schedule but their game against Ohio State will be first/only real test.

Yes, not knocking Indiana - they have done their job….have taken what their schedule gave them and crushed it. But BYU has a tougher schedule and should be above them.

 

[CydeofFries]

Championship games bring in a lot of money to each conference, they are not going to give that money up unless some network is willing to up what they are paying, which they are not going to do without a championship game.

Yeah, I understand I'm just being dramatic. But the root of the issue is that these large conferences are creating a lot of teams with minimal losses (0, 1, or 2) since there can be a lot of missing match-ups. Then, take the B1G for example, say Indiana/Ohio State/Penn State makes the championship game with one loss and then loses again. Will they fall behind the other B1G teams with one loss?

 

[peteypie]

I just wish the Big 12 would get as much love from the committee (media)in basketball and get like 10 or 11 teams in. Instead, we will give each other loses and somehow a league that has 5 preseason top ten teams will get 7 or 8 in.

Shoot ESPNs bracketology after 1 game already has Houston down to a 2 seed, and Duke a 1. because all hail Cooper Flag.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Yeah, I understand I'm just being dramatic. But the root of the issue is that these large conferences are creating a lot of teams with minimal losses (0, 1, or 2) since there can be a lot of missing match-ups. Then, take the B1G for example, say Indiana/Ohio State/Penn State makes the championship game with one loss and then loses again. Will they fall behind the other B1G teams with one loss?

Depends on who they have played and beat throughout the year. The only real hope to get 2 teams in from the B12 is to enlarge the playoff too 14 teams with the ACC and B12 getting two of the bids. Otherwise more often then not either the ACC or B12 will get two bids, while the other gets one.

 

[CoachHines3]

if we were BYU right now, this board would meltdown.

 

[JP4CY]

if we were BYU right now, this board would meltdown.

We would not be soaking it in very well.

 

[loyalsons4evertrue]

Let's say that we drop a game and CU wins out in the regular season but loses in the Big 12 Championship to an undefeated BYU...this would have BYU being the auto bid...would 10-3 CU get in? You know the playoff committee would LOVE for Deion Sanders to be in the CFP

 

[CascadeClone]

Looking deeper into this, you can see how it is set up to have a ton of SEC teams.

Top 12, you got 4 B1G, 4 SEC, and 4 "other" (including ND, G5, and the leaders of the ACC/Big12). Essentially the bare minimum for the "others".

But the next level of 8 teams:

• SMU - in case Miami stumbles
• 3 SEC teams (to fill in for Bama or Tenn if they choke)
• then 4 Big12 teams after all those

So basically, MAYBE if BYU goes 12-0 and loses the CCG they could still make it- but they would probably need some serious help from those next level SEC teams all losing a couple more games.

Miami is in the same boat as BYU, although they need less help.

The other 4 Big12 teams - no way unless they win the CCG. They will never jump enough of those SEC teams. They're just there to make people think they have a shot, but they really don't.

 

[loyalsons4evertrue]

Indiana and BYU are grossly underrated....I think BYU by way of a tougher resume and better wins should be ahead of Indiana as of right now.

But of Texas and Penn State, who have they beaten that's of any note? BYU has two ranked wins over other CFP ranked teams (the ranking now is more important than if you beat a then T25 Michigan who we now know is fraudulent).