Rising - Yet another injury
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Honest question: Do large NIL contracts force schools to play wounded ducks like Rising & McNamara?
I think that is over the line. He is obviously tough enough to play, but he may not be able to physically hold up to the demands of the game any longer. I truly believe a footballer has only so many snaps in him before the body says no more. Rising clearly has reached that thresh hold.
It boils down to this... Rising has obviously fought really hard to get where he is despite every setback possible. I admire the work, effort, and dedication he's shown. But sometimes a person's body just can't handle what you want it to.
Fair enough.
I guess I am saying the same thing with less tact. He may have been tough enough, but can no longer be able to physically hold up.. which I call is not tough enough anymore. I guess was trying to say the same thing, just with less tact.
He needs to just call it quits, he could have gotten really hurt as immobile as he was out there the other night. dude is 6 months older than Brock Purdy for god sake.. He's not an NFL guy, if he was he wouldn't be at Utah playing in this truck stop conf.
It reminds me of the Kickin’ It podcast with Big O. Whe he was anxious to get into the weight room and keep pushing himself. His fellow pro told him - I paraphrase - what are you doing, you only have so many snaps within your body, don’t waist them.
Without NIL (which more accurately is Pay the Player and Hope They Play) I would agree,. I live in the Salt Lake City area and it is commonly reported here that Rising is getting more than $1 million in "NIL" money each season (even though I never see him on any commercials or on any billboards). So why would he leave? He is making a massive windfall in money, more than he can make in any other job, and has no accountability for his performance. He gets all his $$ up front if he can't play (or play well) he already has cashed in. It is in his best interests to milk this deal as long as possible, and frankly if he stays at Utah he will continue to soak up a lot of "NIL" $$ that would otherwise go to other quality players so I'm all for having him stay and Scam the Utah boosters for all they have.
I think this highlights some of the inherent flaws in the current college sports model. I am all for these athletes being able to utilize their celebrity status (even if only in each local market) to promote businesses and other market activities. I also agree that the revenue generating athletes should be entitled to a share of the revenue they generate. But this so-called "NIL" we have now is not NIL. Very few athletes have significant marketing value, even in their local markets, to justify the significant $$ that are demanding now. I hope soon that a more standardized model can be implemented that provides players with a fair (and even generous) portion of the revenue they help generate and places college football and basketball on a long-term, stable and competitive foundation (despite the fact that neither the SEC or BIG want it)
In the meantime, I'm all for Scam Rising to stay at Utah, soak up a big part of their NIL money and drive that arrogant program in the bottom half of the conference
At what point does the NCAA step in and say "you are out of eligibility" guy is already in his 7th season of playing, just how many do overs does he get?
I mean it sucks that he cannot stay healthy, and I admire him for giving it repeated tries, but we really need rules that say you get 5 seasons to play and then you are finished. Covid really opened the door here for players continue to play well after their time was up and the door needs to be shut again in my opinion.
I mean it sucks that he cannot stay healthy, and I admire him for giving it repeated tries, but we really need rules that say you get 5 seasons to play and then you are finished. Covid really opened the door here for players continue to play well after their time was up and the door needs to be shut again in my opinion.
Yes the system we have now is not NIL, its hey all the fans already paying, collect money to pay the players.
NIL is hey the chevy dealer wants to do a Advertisement with you, hey the pork people want a poster with you, or hey lets put you on a Tshirt and sell it. etc.
I know we have to do what everyone is doing, but someone explain to me how the collectives are actually NIL and not just paying players for playing. And tell me how its not just putting even more financial drain on the regular joes out there instead of the people actually making money from those players be it from advertisements bringing business, or the universities making millions off their play.
Because it has went from giving the kids some money to take a date out for a pizza, to they deserve money from the jersey's that they are selling at the team shop, to lets just cut out the middleman and just pay them.
Pizza money to Pay for Play, its the American Way.
Then call it Pay for Play, just like an NFL contract, with guaranteed up-front $$, a contract term and $$ for games actually played ($$$ for starting, $$ for contributing and $ for limited contribution/backup). This would allow schools to invest in player development knowing that players were committed for more than a single year, instead of essentially having year-to-year free agents.
It sure as heck shouldn't, eat your losses and play your best players.
I've never heard any of ISU'S numbers but I sure as hell hope any of our coaches would put winning over contracts.
It will never happen unless the conferences or the government gets involved. The cat is out of the bag, and until all of this conference switching gets worked out, NIL is on the back burner.
We don’t have the money to pay players up front anyways. It’s pretty to clear to me that the strategy is development and retention. Leave no stones unturned looking for diamonds in the rough and hoping to hell we can compensate the standouts fairly enough that they’ll stick around.
I imagine if you’re dropping six to seven figures on a single player, there must be agents and contracts involved. High dollar donors are going to want to see a return on investment so now they have a voice in the locker room.
So far Iowa State’s shoe-string budget strategy is paying dividends. Our NIL pool is certainly grass roots.
From what I can gather, Rising got a degree in criminology in 2023. So he’s two years in to another bachelor’s degree or master’s degree.
