Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

2speedy1

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I don’t understand if the mtn west dissolves because 9 of 12 left, why didn’t the Pac12 dissolve when 10 of 12 left? Does it simply come down to bylaws? Couldn’t the 3 remaining mountain west school due to keep the fees owed to the conference?
This is the issue I have here.

In most conferences, the bylaws say as soon as a member school gives notice to leave, they lose voting rights. It was the case with OuT, they did not have a vote on expansion etc. They were not allowed in meetings regarding matters like that.

So in a simple math scenario. The remaining members would need to meet the voting percentage. If say there are 12 members and it takes more than a 50% majority, you need 7 votes. If half those leave and only 6 remain, you need 4 of those remaining members to be the Majority. In this case they must need more like 75% of remaining members.

I think some reporters fail to realize this. But it is possible the MWC doesnt have that in their Bylaws, but that would be unusual.
 

FriendlySpartan

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This is the issue I have here.

In most conferences, the bylaws say as soon as a member school gives notice to leave, they lose voting rights. It was the case with OuT, they did not have a vote on expansion etc. They were not allowed in meetings regarding matters like that.

So in a simple math scenario. The remaining members would need to meet the voting percentage. If say there are 12 members and it takes more than a 50% majority, you need 7 votes. If half those leave and only 6 remain, you need 4 of those remaining members to be the Majority. In this case they must need more like 75% of remaining members.

I think some reporters fail to realize this. But it is possible the MWC doesnt have that in their Bylaws, but that would be unusual.
It’s also the MWC, there might not be enough funds and resources to matter but I do agree it’s an interesting thing that isn’t talked about
 

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Clonehomer

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Any court decision that will enable FSU to get out will be related to reduced exit fees, not the GOR itself. I've seen nothing that suggests that FSU has found an exit due to a fault in the GOR (which is why they are now talking settlement with a new GOR expiration date of 2030).

Since the ACC GOR mirrors the B12's, the only way the ACC dissolves is if 1) ESPN declines the 2027 ACC TV option and the GOR terminates at that time or 2) if ESPN doesn't decline the 2027 options, all existing schools must have a new landing spot to their satisfaction or else the conference stays intact in some fashion with the remaining schools.

I thought FSU’s argument is that the TV deal that the GOR was based on changed after FSU signed it. The ESPN clause to get out of the contract was not included in the original that FSU was presented.
 
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cykadelic2

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I thought FSU’s argument is that the TV deal that the GOR was based on changed after FSU signed it. The ESPN clause to get out of the contract was not included in the original that FSU was presented.
Agree and that should have been acknowledged in my prior post. Point still stands that the ACC GOR language itself remains iron clad from what I've read but the administrative process to extend it with the ESPN opt out clause is being challenged in addition to challenging the amount of the exit fees (beyond GOR buyout).
 

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Nebraska and the rest of the B1G are free to not play on Fridays. They can do away with other fan-unfriendly things like November night games or six-day holds, too. All they have to do is take a little bit less money from FOX and NBC. Just a little bit. Probably so little, in fact, that they would still be the highest paid conference. And they have refused to do. That says a lot!

If the B1G refused to play on Friday, I can guarantee the Big 12 or ACC would happily fill those time slots and take the extra money that comes with it.

Also, the undertone here is (IMO) Nebraska is important enough to skip the Friday games, and the B1G should make the Purdues and Rutgers of the world host all of them. Which is also pretty sh***y and reminiscent of Texas/Oklahoma stuff in the Big 12.
 

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NU uses the excuse that they had to cancel classes on a Friday because of the disruption caused by hosting the evening game. Don't the Huskers always seem to brag about having to essentially shut down the state of Nebraska when there is a home game in Lincoln?
 

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Ah, there is the Nebraska we know. It will be interesting to see how the B1G handles this.
Same way Nebraska always gets handled. They get told to go sit in the corner, shut up and remember their place. Maybe if they were some what relevant the last decade they would have a larger voice but they couldn’t even handle the big ten west
 

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The BIG will handle it how Fox tells them too. And Fox will say “we want big games in that time slot. We own you. You play when we say you do.”
This was also a huge issue that led to Warren leaving the conference. He didn’t disclose a lot of what was in the media deals before getting everyone to agree. It was only afterwards that the details started coming in.
 

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Also, the undertone here is (IMO) Nebraska is important enough to skip the Friday games, and the B1G should make the Purdues and Rutgers of the world host all of them. Which is also pretty sh***y and reminiscent of Texas/Oklahoma stuff in the Big 12.
They also got embarrassed by Fatbert. LOFL.
 

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This was also a huge issue that led to Warren leaving the conference. He didn’t disclose a lot of what was in the media deals before getting everyone to agree. It was only afterwards that the details started coming in.

Just focusing solely on the bottom line so Iowa fans can squawk about how much more money their AD gets than the rest. But it does nothing to make their fan experience any better.

How about negotiating the ability for every school to pick the kickoff time slot of its homecoming game (or one game per year at the school's option)? Maybe some reasonable limit on hosting weeknight games, like once every 3 years or something? Letting schools opt out of the 3rd or 4th home 11:00am kickoff of the season (or the 3rd or 4th night game)? I'm sure there are more things like this that a very wealthy league like the B1G could have negotiated in exchange for a drop in the bucket reduction in their media contract.

But they just focus on the bottom line.
 

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So is Nebraska complaining that they lost to Illinois because it was a Friday night game? And because of that outrage, they forced their AD to send a letter to the league office?
 

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