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Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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In regards to unequal revenue sharing.
In this scenario, that has a tiny chance of happening, it'd be 71m for those 3 and 61m per year for the rest, sign me up for that. Even if his outrageous scenario worked out like he suggests, I think his numbers are a bit high. What if it was 61m for the 3 and 51m, still...I'd sign up.
When it happens I will start to believe it, first this was written by a Clemson writer, both schools have to win their suit against the ACC before anything can happen and right now the ACC is not even willing to talk about a buyout, they are basically taking the position that we have a contract which you signed.
This is kind of like reports that Houston was floating out there that the SEC was interested and the B12 better grab them before they get an invite to the SEC. Clemson and FSU are not AAU schools, so for both it could be that they are trying to get the SEC to extend an invite.
Hard no on unequal revenue distributions and special treatment for anyone. We just got rid of the last two schools that thought the conference revolved around them, I don’t think we need to recreate that dynamic.
The only reason any of them would want to come to the B12 is if the SEC and B10 pass on them and the B12 is a better deal than the ACC. I’d say that puts the B12 in a better negotiating position. Happy to have them, but they’re 1 of 18 (20? 22?), not #1 and then everyone else.
ND is not going to join the Big 12
Agree...ND is the only school I could understand entering a situation with unequal revenue sharing...but again...they ain't coming to the Big 12! Although I wish they would!
Absolutely not. No unequal revenue sharing. The big 12 has access to the CFP and I dont want WVU to have to run through FSU and Clemson to get there.
I think unequal because “you’re new here” is different than unequal because “we’re better/more valuable/etc than you”.
It’s pretty obvious this is a ploy by the Yormak/Big 12 team to creat uneasiness in the ACC and college football in general. He knows we aren’t going to get Clemson of FSU right now. But we can get VT, Miami, NC state and Duke. Grab a combo of them and then you hold all the cards.
ND will never ever ever EVER ever be in the Bug 12. Period. End of story. If a writer suggests that they lose credibility.
Hassel made a good point this week. If the ACC implodes and it’s just let’s say Pitt, Lville, NcSt, and Va tech or Miami come over to B12, yeah we are part of the last P3, but at huge distant 3rd. Then what’s stopping the P2 from separating themselves from us and treating us like an actual G5 league? If BY can land a couple of the big fish (I don’t believe they can) then you pull closer to the P2 but if you, it might be better for us for the ACC to stay together.
Hassel made a good point this week. If the ACC implodes and it’s just let’s say Pitt, Lville, NcSt, and Va tech or Miami come over to B12, yeah we are part of the last P3, but at huge distant 3rd. Then what’s stopping the P2 from separating themselves from us and treating us like an actual G5 league? If BY can land a couple of the big fish (I don’t believe they can) then you pull closer to the P2 but if you, it might be better for us for the ACC to stay together.
I don't believe any of these ideas of package deals. This stuff has never held true. UCLA left Cal, Oregon left OSU, UW left WSU, Okie left Okie Lite. The Texas publics in UT, ATM, and TT have all been moving independently. There were comments by the Kansas BOR during the first missile crises that while they would like to stay with KSU they wouldn't pass on a better opportunity just to stay together.
So VT and NCST are not going to be anchors on UNC and UVA. They go alone if the offer comes.
We told cinci to accept less because you are new here. But then told Arizona state you get more than cinci because you’re better ( and because they wouldn’t come otherwise). How is that different than giving Clemson more? Again not saying I approve.
True, but two key differences and a little context:
- It’s the new guys taking a smaller slice
- It’s for the media deals in place.
If the B12 gave FSU or Clemson a bigger cut than everyone else for coming over, you know damn well it would be going forward. Also, it would never be enough to placate them and they’d still leave if/when the SEC/B10 opened the door.
While I don’t think ND to the Big12 has any chance of happening I could actually see a world where Clemson and FSU came. Clemson has only ever been good under one coach whose star is fading in many people’s eyes. FSU might not be wanted in the SEC and also in the big ten so I could also see them needing a landing spot.
If the Big12 actually goes through with the PE idea they could float some numbers that would have them interested. I think it would just be buying you another OUT type situation down the road but the future of college sports is so up in the air that the risk could be very worth it.
