Future Big 12 FB Opponents/Schedule Announced

Bro. Yes we’ve played them forever because of the Big 8 & Big12 North.
The rivalry was only a recent thing. Like past 20 years recent.

AND guess what, we’ll still play them every 3/4 years. It is not a big deal

But we named it Farmageddon!!!! Don't you know that adding a stupid name like that to a game in the last 10 -15 years makes it a BIG TIME rivalry?
 
My guy, you proved my point with not even knowing how many years in a row they’ve played.

We would get the outrage if the series was OVER forever, like bedlam seems to be. We are trying to wrap our minds how adults are throwing a fit over ONE YEAR.
Buddy, I also don't know when we started playing Iowa but I don't want us to quit playing them every year.
 
I dont, but maybe they do.

But there is a distinction, be ours is the longest never interrupted.

Ours is like going into a game and making every shot with no misses.

Other rivalries are like hitting a couple more shots, but missing some.

Its like going into a game and the QB not missing a single pass, and ending the game 100%.


It is a rare thing, and should be something of value.

Even when 75% of those games were toilet bowls?
 
I will also add that the league office WAY overestimated how much WVU cares if arz, arz state, utah, and byu are left off the wvu schedule. once every 8 years is plenty....
 
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I will also add that the league office WAY overestimated how much WVU cares if arz, arz state, utah, and byu are left off the wvu schedule. once every 8 years is plenty....
I'm more sympathetic to WVU here, because this model requires more travel for the Mountaineers which has financial and competitive impacts (much moreso than ISU's). That said, I'd still say WVU is one of 16 stakeholders in the conference.

I'm too lazy to look. Do you all play Cincy 3 times in 4 years? It looks like you play ISU twice and we're the second-closest school to you.
 
Buddy, I also don't know when we started playing Iowa but I don't want us to quit playing them every year.
The value from that game isn't derived from the length of time they've been playing. The value is derived from in-state bragging rights among fans, the hatred for each other, recruiting, and it's usually a competitive game
 
I'm more sympathetic to WVU here, because this model requires more travel for the Mountaineers which has financial and competitive impacts (much moreso than ISU's). That said, I'd still say WVU is one of 16 stakeholders in the conference.

I'm too lazy to look. Do you all play Cincy 3 times in 4 years? It looks like you play ISU twice and we're the second-closest school to you.
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It is still really easy to play everyone twice in 4 years even with guaranteeing ISU yearly matchups with KSU, KU and OSU or CU.

REALLY EASY.

The excuse they want everyone to play at least twice in 4 years is dumb, Because there are plenty of easy ways to make that happen and still protect certain matchups. LIKE REALLY EASY, so we went with a worse schedule, for what reason? We didnt protect certain matchups, for what reason? Because the excuses given, dont make sense when you could still do what those excuses say, and protect those games. So not protecting the games just makes no sense.
It wouldn't just be ISU wanting these matchups. If you allowed ISU to, you'd have to allow all these schools wanting annual games with certain teams. How easy is it to do a home and home every 4 years when each team wants to play another 2-3 teams annually?
 
But we named it Farmageddon!!!! Don't you know that adding a stupid name like that to a game in the last 10 -15 years makes it a BIG TIME rivalry?

Well, there are people in this thread who think a trophy being up for grabs defines a rivalry game. You know, like that historic SUI-UNL series.
 
It wouldn't just be ISU wanting these matchups. If you allowed ISU to, you'd have to allow all these schools wanting annual games with certain teams. How easy is it to do a home and home every 4 years when each team wants to play another 2-3 teams annually?
Very easy, Hell the pod system allows for 3 regular matchups every year, and the rest rotate every 2. This system makes sure you play 2 teams in every regional pod every year, while playing everyone in your own regional pod.

People have made mock schedules where everyone has 3 protected rivals and everyone else plays every 2 years too.


Finally, they did allow 4 protected rivals...but only those 4 so in your scenario if ISU got one the others should get one too, except, they allowed 4 and the others didnt want/get any.
 
Very easy, Hell the pod system allows for 3 regular matchups every year, and the rest rotate every 2. This system makes sure you play 2 teams in every regional pod every year, while playing everyone in your own regional pod.

People have made mock schedules where everyone has 3 protected rivals and everyone else plays every 2 years too.


Finally, they did allow 4 protected rivals...but only those 4 so in your scenario if ISU got one the others should get one too, except, they allowed 4 and the others didnt want/get any.
The only model I saw that achieved this (now there definitely could be more that I'm not aware of, in which case I'd love to see), was your aforementioned 4-team pods. And, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, there was a very real possibility we'd get put in an Eastern pod with UCF, WVU, Cincy. And that is way freakin worse than not playing KSU once in 2027.
 
So what? They just arrived. They can't be throwing their weight around. They certainly have more history with Cincinnati & UCF than we do.

I can't believe all the @$$holes in this thread acting like they're smarter than everyone else because they think annual rivalries in the Big 12 doesn't matter. You're the idiots. This sh*t schedule is also neglecting Cincinnati/West Virginia, UCF/Houston, Baylor/Texas Tech. Yeah, none of them are Ohio State/Michigan, but to not even try to cultivate multiple regularly occurring interesting matchups is a huge missed opportunity.

The schedule makers must be the geniuses behind the Precious Moments Trophy and the Bugle Logo.
Did you even read post #331 where I responded to another poster with the same sentiment? I don't think Houston should have a lot of cache as a newcomer but that doesn't mean that school who thinks they are more than they really are wouldn't throw a huge tantrum if there were pods and they weren't placed with the other Texas schools. I didn't say they would be right to be upset, only that they would throw a tantrum and I'm sure there are a lot of posters who agree with me.

But good job calling a whole mess of posters ******** and idiots in one flamethrowing post. You need to calm down before you blow a gasket.
 
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So what? They just arrived. They can't be throwing their weight around. They certainly have more history with Cincinnati & UCF than we do.

I can't believe all the @$$holes in this thread acting like they're smarter than everyone else because they think annual rivalries in the Big 12 doesn't matter. You're the idiots. This sh*t schedule is also neglecting Cincinnati/West Virginia, UCF/Houston, Baylor/Texas Tech. Yeah, none of them are Ohio State/Michigan, but to not even try to cultivate multiple regularly occurring interesting matchups is a huge missed opportunity.

The schedule makers must be the geniuses behind the Precious Moments Trophy and the Bugle Logo.
You realize why the Big 12 has been an administrative dumpster fire for a decade plus, right?

It's because not every member felt that they had an equal say. By saying that the newcomers shouldn't have an equal voice, you're just saying that the Big 12 should do the same thing that got the Big 12 to the edge of not existing.

Everybody has to be an equal part of this thing.
 
I will just point out Texas and A&M haven't played in almost 15 years, and I guarantee once that thing re-starts nothing will have been lost. And yes they will be annual now I believe, but what I am saying is missing K State for one year isn't going to erode that matchup. This seems to only be about the continuous, un-interrupted thing, which is not that big of a deal to get this hung up on imo.

I don't care either way on the K State thing. Of course it would be cool to keep it never interrupted, but I am just glad we are playing them more times than not.

And what I truly care about is making the CFP. If we happen to miss going to Manhattan in a year we win the league and go to the CFP, I am sure as hell not going to miss playing K State that year. The chance to make a CFP and really vault our program forward is worth everything.
 
WVU plays Cincy in 3 of the next 4 years. That's 3 more games than they've played in the last 12 years. Their last meeting was in 2011. One missing game isn't going to break the bank. I'm sure they can fix this the next time the schedule comes out if desired on both sides.
 
It is still really easy to play everyone twice in 4 years even with guaranteeing ISU yearly matchups with KSU, KU and OSU or CU.

REALLY EASY.

The excuse they want everyone to play at least twice in 4 years is dumb, Because there are plenty of easy ways to make that happen and still protect certain matchups. LIKE REALLY EASY, so we went with a worse schedule, for what reason? We didnt protect certain matchups, for what reason? Because the excuses given, dont make sense when you could still do what those excuses say, and protect those games. So not protecting the games just makes no sense.
They also want to protect schedule parity. The more protected rivalries the tougher it is to balance everyone's strength of schedule. Think about if Mich St. had Penn St., Mich. and OSU as their protected rivalries and Iowa had Nebby, Minny and Indiana. Is there any way in god's green earth that you could balance out their strength of schedules over time while still trying to get all teams playing all other teams home and away in a four year period? We don't know who is going to be a new stong dynasty going forward. The three best teams could very well be one team's three protected rivals or podmates and the new big dogs of the conference.
 
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