I believe @Gunnerclone is referring to state-level policymakers having a direct impact on changing demographics.
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I believe @Gunnerclone is referring to state-level policymakers having a direct impact on changing demographics.
Mostly talking white collar/knowledge work space where most of this research is done because the logistics are much simpler. But even in those supply chain focused areas, they could refinagle staffing.
That drive down East Wash is hella different from what it was 10 yrs ago, even 5.
Sorry, I guess I'm very confused on this whole topic. What changing demographic? The downtown Des Moines demographic? Can someone point to some actual stats that show how this has changed?
Yes, downtown Des Moines has become less attractive to potential homeowners/renters for a number of reasons. Just off the top of my head: Court Avenue violence, noise issues(mostly obnoxious motorcycles), homeless problem, less people working downtown, low income housing, etc. None of those issues were caused by state level politicians.
Some try, but everyone wants Friday off. The ones who don’t get that day are ticked and don’t get much done then. Daughter interned at a major Ag company in supply chain and told me that this was happening there.
Brain drain. It's accelerating. White-collar workers contribute to healthy metropolitan areas. Policies being passed at the state level aren't helping.
College educated students leaving Iowa at higher rates than other states
A report from the nonprofit research organization said only 8 states lose more of their college graduates than Iowa.
www.kcrg.com
Unfortunately dealing with the same issues discussed in this thread. Hoping the 16th Street mall reno they're working on right now helps with bringing people back.
At the same time, I've been down there a number of times this summer and never felt unsafe.
I think the article touches on a major issue. Young people are not fond of legislation marginalizing LGBTQ+ individuals. Even those who do not identify as such have friends that do. And us ancient people also had friends who identified as such when we were in school but were forced to hide who they were even from their friends.Brain drain. It's accelerating. White-collar workers contribute to healthy metropolitan areas. Policies being passed at the state level aren't helping.
College educated students leaving Iowa at higher rates than other states
A report from the nonprofit research organization said only 8 states lose more of their college graduates than Iowa.
Brain drain. It's accelerating. White-collar workers contribute to healthy metropolitan areas. Policies being passed at the state level aren't helping.
College educated students leaving Iowa at higher rates than other states
A report from the nonprofit research organization said only 8 states lose more of their college graduates than Iowa.
Which state-level policy in the last 10 years are you referring to that affected Des Moines demographics?
Brain drain. It's accelerating. White-collar workers contribute to healthy metropolitan areas. Policies being passed at the state level aren't helping.
College educated students leaving Iowa at higher rates than other states
A report from the nonprofit research organization said only 8 states lose more of their college graduates than Iowa.
Once again, we're talking about downtown Des Moines. People moving into the Des Moines metro are choosing Cumming over downtown Des Moines because brain drain? Not because of the reasons I had listed (Crime, homelessness, noise, fewer downtown office jobs, etc.).
OK, I guess that's a theory.
Are you saying that des moines has a higher level of those things than real cities? Seems unlikely.
I'm referring to the overall demographics of the state changing which is having an impact on metropolitan areas in general.
Seriously? Have you not seen what's happening in the state? It's ******* obvious.
Think I read this article the first time back in 1985.Brain drain. It's accelerating. White-collar workers contribute to healthy metropolitan areas. Policies being passed at the state level aren't helping.
College educated students leaving Iowa at higher rates than other states
A report from the nonprofit research organization said only 8 states lose more of their college graduates than Iowa.
Just saying as far as a place that isn’t WDM, Waukee, Ankeny. Those places are all solid. Just comparing it to being a bit of a “different lifestyle” like Downtown living is. People that might have taken the chance on downtown living are taking a chance on something else now.
As someone that owns two residential properties in downtown Des Moines I find the “downtown is dead” statements interesting.
Sure the sky walk area has diminished but that’s only a portion of downtown. WFH has also allowed people to live anywhere they want including downtown. In the process of selling one of properties and there is a ton of demand and it took less than 3 days. The constant growth of residential developments and influx of out of area breweries, etc into downtown wouldn’t be happening if it was dead. If anyone spent any amount of time downtown recently they’d know it’s anything but dead.
A large percentage of people don’t live downtown because they work there. In my building the majority don’t work downtown and a number moved there post Covid because of WFH. It’s a lifestyle not driven by proximity to an office.
Sure the sky walk area has diminished but that’s only a portion of downtown. WFH has also allowed people to live anywhere they want including downtown. In the process of selling one of properties and there is a ton of demand and it took less than 3 days. The constant growth of residential developments and influx of out of area breweries, etc into downtown wouldn’t be happening if it was dead. If anyone spent any amount of time downtown recently they’d know it’s anything but dead.
A large percentage of people don’t live downtown because they work there. In my building the majority don’t work downtown and a number moved there post Covid because of WFH. It’s a lifestyle not driven by proximity to an office.
Can’t talk about the main one in this thread. Your kind hasn’t learned anything from 2020 or 2022 have you?
It's definitely not a new problem but the reasons to leave are increasing!
