Yes, anything could happen. So nobody should claim Big 10 schools are safe, right?
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Any of these sources of instability are reasons for the $ generating brands to squeeze the coattail teams. It’ll happen.
The idea that Indiana and its 15k fans in the stands are just going to automatically get 100ish million a year in media money for all eternity isn’t realistic.
But this whole topic, or at least how I perceived it, was that the Miss St and Indiana types are on deck after the ACC gets ripped apart.
They will very likely be diminished one way or another. This train is not coming to a screeching halt once the top 4-6 ACC brands go big ten/sec.
You’re describing one way that happens, probably one of the more likely and least severe ways.
I’d say among the least likely scenarios is that college football stays popular and Michigan and NW get identical conference payouts in 30-40 years.
By that argument no one should claim anything. CTE studies could come out and get football banned at public institutions, most of the SEC could be under water due to climate change, the Arizona schools could close due to drought, utah is on its way to being a toxic distaster.
But yeah based on all information we have the big ten schools are safe.
Is Murder She Wrote, Golden Girls or Matlock on before 8:30? That's my bedtime.
If you think the B1G and SEC start shedding schools, I guess we'll see. I don't see it happening. I wouldn't be surprised to see top programs in the B1G get a bigger cut from CFP and bowl revenues, but I don't see them hacking the bottom programs. To sustain elite programs/brands, conferences need cannon fodder. Cram an entire slate of elite programs into a conference, and it won't be long before half of those programs are no longer elite. So then what happens? They get cut too? Don't see it happening.
What information do you have exactly that big 10 schools are safe? All it takes is for ESPN to contact FSU, Clemson, Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Alabama, LSU, OU, Texas. etc and say "We can offer you double the media $$ to what you make right now, Just leave your conference and create a new super conference"
Everything about these realignments are driven by money. What information do you have that says these schools will suddenly decide to turn down more money?
I get that we’re on a message board so speculation is the name of the game but making a guess 30-40 years out is an exercise in futility
Because a super conference is horrible business so it would be extremely unlikely to happen.
You seriously think ESPN could afford to pay twice what FOX, NBC, CBS are paying combined?
I mean we can't go back to the days where the Rose Bowl was played against a team we literally had no info on. I'm old enough to remember the Big Ten playing on New Years against teams we knew nothing about other that what we heard on the pregame
But we have to try and reestablish some kind of regional identity or a way to keep college ball special.
I guess I'll go yell at the clouds
That's simply your opinion. Schools/media do not care about business. They care about $$. So long as money is the driving force, one super conference forming can occur
I’m sorry what? Media, aka media companies, don’t care about business? Are fox and espn charities now?
I don’t think anybody gets “kicked out” but things evolve anyway. No conference has “kicked out” Washington state. But thinking NW and Ohio St will get sane cut forever is just not realistic.
The best thing for stability is if b10 and SEC payments can be identical, if one is even 20% more than the other that could trigger movement in future decades too. Texas was outraged they were going to fall 15-20% behind SEC teams and LHN allowed them to make more than SEC for a period. It wasn’t like the sec was wildly ahead of b12 when this all ramped up.
Then of course they’re gonna squeeze what they understandably see as freeloaders once expansion is difficult or impossible.
I was using an example. A more realistic example would be something like the NFL structure.
I think this is most likely too. It's definitely a first step. The saving grace for the rest of the Big 10 so far in my opinion is that Ohio State has proven it can be competitive with anybody. If they were winning the Big 10 and then going on to performances like Michigan a couple years ago or TCU last year in the playoff maybe they change their tune.
I think OSU is the most valuable brand in college sports. They are making all the other schools in the league a metric **** ton of money. If they get to a point where they feel like they can't compete with Alabama and Georgia, or whoever else emerges from the SEC, I don't think it's a stretch for them to be thinking about what they might be able to do in terms of assistant salaries, diverted donations to NIL, etc with an additional $20, 30 or 40M a year.
The other good thing about the Big 10 is that outside of the Hoke and RichRod eras at Michigan, there haven't been long stretches were the big valuable brands would not also clear a good chunk of performance-based revenue. Big 12 has been in a weird place with Texas being such an underachiever. Hell, OU and UT clearly were the most valuable media brands in the league and are a combined 19-17 in the last two seasons in the Big 12. They would probably fight like hell against an incentive based approach and want it focused on media value metrics in some way.
I'm sorry, what? Are you insinuating these conference realignments were not driven by money??
