Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[jcyclonee]

I feel like I have a good understanding of everything that’s happening, except UCONN and Gonzaga. When those two schools come up, I just tell myself “people smarter than me (aka @jdoggivjc and that complex brain) know what they’re doing”.

I simply don’t understand elevating schools like that.

BY thinks football popularity will stagnate and the growth will be in basketball. It is more popular internationally and participation isn't dropping among youth. At least not to the level that football's youth participation is dropping.

 

[HFCS]

Sounding like just AZ now.

I think the main puppeteers of all this prefer doing it in moves of one and two over several years to avoid blame.

Probably best result for a big 12 fan who also didn’t want Pac completely gutted.

B12 gets two new markets without overlap. ASU and Utah get ultimate dream of making less $ in Pac. Wash and Ore can sit back and reevaluate at next shift. It’d be a bad time for those two to have avg or bad football.

 

[MugNight]

Agreed on all points. I posted because like Ten12 podcast, it brings a tear to my eye to see WVU fans say it. Rewind a few years and I believe TheDude, Mhver3, and many others would have traded us for them in a heart beat. Its a whole new world now. Big12 is finally in a position of strength and its a great feeling!

WVU is a great member of the XII. Hate playing them in hoops, but they fit the in so well. We gave them a lifeline back then. I hope they feel welcome in our conference.

 

[HFCS]

WVU is a great member of the XII. Hate playing them in hoops, but they fit the in so well. We gave them a lifeline back then. I hope they feel welcome in our conference.

They have to know multiple regional rivalries are now highly likely after being a satellite for so long.

 

[Scruff]

WVU is a great member of the XII. Hate playing them in hoops, but they fit the in so well. We gave them a lifeline back then. I hope they feel welcome in our conference.

I have a cousin that attended WVU and lives in Morgantown, so we text every time they play. I love that we refer to it as the Riot Bowl. I certainly think hillbillies fit right in with the truck stop conference. Bball... I just hope their next coach gets rid of that annoying all-game press.

 

[t-noah]

I deleted this post. I got my answer. I was just curious on what folks thought of SMU, not that I was in favor of it.

 

[FerShizzle]

Let's consider 3 scenarios. 1) Big 12 takes AZ, WA, UO. 2) Big 12 takes AZ, AZ St, UCONN. 3. Big 12 takes AZ, UCONN, SMU?

I know it would be another TX school, and a G5 school to boot, but is there any talk that the Big 12 might quickly go with SMU, in order to further diminish the PAC options?

The above assumes the Big 12 stops at 16 teams, this year. If the PAC dissolves, which it certainly could, I think the Big 12 could fairly quickly go above 16 teams.

0% chance they take SMU.

 

[NWICY]

Let's consider 3 scenarios. 1) Big 12 takes AZ, WA, UO. 2) Big 12 takes AZ, AZ St, UCONN. 3. Big 12 takes AZ, UCONN, SMU?

I know it would be another TX school, and a G5 school to boot, but is there any talk that the Big 12 might quickly go with SMU, in order to further diminish the PAC options?

The above assumes the Big 12 stops at 16 teams, this year. If the PAC dissolves, which it certainly could, I think the Big 12 could fairly quickly go above 16 teams.

Nope SMU just doesn't cut it.

 

[enisthemenace]

Let's consider 3 scenarios. 1) Big 12 takes AZ, WA, UO. 2) Big 12 takes AZ, AZ St, UCONN. 3. Big 12 takes AZ, UCONN, SMU?

I know it would be another TX school, and a G5 school to boot, but is there any talk that the Big 12 might quickly go with SMU, in order to further diminish the PAC options?

The above assumes the Big 12 stops at 16 teams, this year. If the PAC dissolves, which it certainly could, I think the Big 12 could fairly quickly go above 16 teams.

SMU can pound sand

 

[Yaz]

I don't buy certain conferences are doing this or that because they don't want blood on their hands. This is a billion dollar business and no one cares about feelings. Did the B10 and Jim Delany give 2 cents when they started the downfall of college football as we all knew it, LOLOLOL....NO!
I think the UCONN portion is to get AZ or Oregon sooner than later and a hedge if they don't. So BY will grow the
BIG 12 Basketball brand. BY wins either way. Not a fan of UCONN, but I guess the big picture and conference differentiation for the future $ to BY, is Basketball.

 

[stateofmind]

What happens to the Rose Bowl? Do they scrap the B1G vs PAC? B1G ****** that up as well.

 

[HFCS]

I don't buy certain conferences are doing this or that because they don't want blood on their hands. This is a billion dollar business and no one cares about feelings. Did the B10 and Jim Delany give 2 cents when they started the downfall of college football as we all knew it, LOLOLOL....NO!
I think the UCONN portion is to get AZ or Oregon sooner than later and a hedge if they don't. So BY will grow the
BIG 12 Basketball brand. BY wins either way. Not a fan of UCONN, but I guess the big picture and conference differentiation for the future $ to BY, is Basketball.

Conferences I kind of agree...media partners I think might actually want to moderate things as to not bring attention to how they are the main driver of the whole thing.

 

[aeroclone]

What happens to the Rose Bowl? Do they scrap the B1G vs PAC? B1G ****** that up as well.

We take the top remaining Pac schools and claim the Rose Bowl along with it.

 

[clone37]

Let's consider 3 scenarios. 1) Big 12 takes AZ, WA, UO. 2) Big 12 takes AZ, AZ St, UCONN. 3. Big 12 takes AZ, UCONN, SMU?

I know it would be another TX school, and a G5 school to boot, but is there any talk that the Big 12 might quickly go with SMU, in order to further diminish the PAC options?

The above assumes the Big 12 stops at 16 teams, this year. If the PAC dissolves, which it certainly could, I think the Big 12 could fairly quickly go above 16 teams.

Scheer paints a pretty clear picture here: https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Article/arizona-next-step-realignment-obvious-213337955/

 

[Urbandale2013]

I was certain of this at one point, but now I'm not so sure.

Case for MWC schools joining the PAC:

• PAC brand > MWC brand
• A few years left on the current CFP deal
• Better bowl agreements in place
• Taking the PAC + the top of the MWC would probably be a better and more lucrative conference, long-term

Case for PAC schools joining the MWC:

• At least the MWC has a media deal
• $35M buyout for MWC to join the PAC for 2024, $0 buyout for PAC to join the MWC. Most schools in both conferences are pretty strapped for cash right now. Even though it's short-term, this could be a giant hurdle

The PAC really backed themselves into a corner by delaying and delaying. If this all goes down in June or before, SDSU is probably voting today to join the PAC as a replacement for Colorado, with SMU the launching pad in case more schools bolt. UNLV, Boise St, Fresno St, CO St and others are all sitting by the phone.

Is the PAC 12 branding really better than the MWC? I could see a merger and then taking the MWC branding. MWC isn’t viewed too bad. It would be seen as the MWC moving up instead of the scraps of the PAC 12.

 

[MugNight]

What happens to the Rose Bowl? Do they scrap the B1G vs PAC? B1G ****** that up as well.

B1G fans of teams who otherwise would’ve never sniffed the Rose Bowl will now have the chance to make the pilgrimage out west once every 5 years to play a UCLA team that’s filling 40% of its stadium.

They get to live the fantasy, minus the parades and old guys in sports coats.

 

[PickSix]

Arizona's next step in realignment should be obvious

Arizona's future has become obvious. Read on to see why that is and more.

247sports.com

"Kliavkoff held a meeting with Pac-12 Presidents and Athletic Directors on Thursday and sources indicate to WildcatAuthority that it could not have gone worse. At a time where the schools want and need clarity, Kliavkoff was unable to give it."

 

[wenkeej]

Nothing really new, but confirming what most thought about last night's P9 meeting.

 

[LLCoolCY]

Scheer paints a pretty clear picture here: https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Article/arizona-next-step-realignment-obvious-213337955/

"Eventually the Big 12 will push a little bit and when that happens, Arizona is likely to go."

 

[wenkeej]

Arizona's next step in realignment should be obvious

Arizona's future has become obvious. Read on to see why that is and more.

247sports.com

"Kliavkoff held a meeting with Pac-12 Presidents and Athletic Directors on Thursday and sources indicate to WildcatAuthority that it could not have gone worse. At a time where the schools want and need clarity, Kliavkoff was unable to give it."

Jinx