Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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I do believe there is a chance the PAC12 stays together and the BIG12 does not expand with Arizona, CU, etc. This maybe viewed as a negative towards the BIG12. Call it egg on the face or failure to close the deal.
The Big 12 has already hit a home run with their media deal. Getting a Pac school would be icing on the cake but still was a low probability from the start.
 

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I do believe there is a chance the PAC12 stays together and the BIG12 does not expand with Arizona, CU, etc. This maybe viewed as a negative towards the BIG12. Call it egg on the face or failure to close the deal.
I am sure Pac12 would spin it that way.

But reality, if Pac10 doesn't crumble this summer, it will crumble when Oregon and Washington leave in next 5 years.
 

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I do believe there is a chance the PAC12 stays together and the BIG12 does not expand with Arizona, CU, etc. This maybe viewed as a negative towards the BIG12. Call it egg on the face or failure to close the deal.
Last week I’d have agreed with you. Right now, I think CU is gone. And they will be the only one.
 
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I work customer facing of a big tech company and my anecdotal evidence is that all the grads from the “smart” schools like Stanford, MIT, Cornell etc all flame out in a year. They can’t handle talking with customers and especially frustrated customers. People who went to State schools, especially Southern or Midwest ones like Illinois, Alabama, Georgia, ISU etc really excel.

It’s unfortunate we’ve basically stopped recruiting at ISU due to the College of Engineering screwery with career fair stuff. We’ve basically opened a major pipeline with Alabama and Georgia instead and a ton of grads get hired from them.
What is the career fair screwery?
 

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I do believe there is a chance the PAC12 stays together and the BIG12 does not expand with Arizona, CU, etc. This maybe viewed as a negative towards the BIG12. Call it egg on the face or failure to close the deal.
There’s always been a chance. Not sure how it’s egg in the face, it’s always been pretty clean cut. They will follow the money. They aren’t leaving until the know the PAC money. Nothing has changed since USC/UCLA’s announcement.

As long as this has gone on, it’s pretty clear they are struggling to find the money to present to the conference to sign. These decisions are always made in late June-July.
 

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It will. No way the Big10's plan is to just have USC & UCLA west of the Huskers.
I agree too. USC and UCLA think they know the travel will be difficult. Reality will smack them in the face after a couple of years of it. Was similar to WVU. They didn't complain about traveling until about year 3.
 
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Does this conference exist soon?

Core of new decimated pac/MWC after sdsu/SMU join:
WSU
Ore St
SDSU
SMU
UNLV

Possible other MWC additions or Pac leftovers:
Boise st
CSU
AFA
Utah
ASU
Cal/Stan
Fresno St

MWC Schools I see at risk of being some version of yet another WAC:
San Jose st
Wyoming
New mexico
Nevada
Utah st
 
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They couldn't even get ESPN to pay more for a ninth conference game, so I doubt it.
I think the SEC slows down now that they’ve added Texas and OU. The conference has a lot of heavyweights who all think they are entitled to 10+ wins every year — Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Florida, A&M, Texas and OU. That’s half the conference. IMO this is why the SEC is staying at 8 conference games. If they were to expand further I think the power programs will look for a big market team that they can all consistently beat. Think North Carolina. Maybe Penn St if they weren’t in the B1G (they aren’t Joe Pa’s Lion’s of the 70s/80s). Don’t underestimate their desire to pad their record. It’s why the B1G is so beautiful for Ohio St and Michigan. They get the big payout and still get to play lots of weak opponents.
 
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What is the career fair screwery?
They put the career fair over two weeks and required companies that wanted a certain size booth to be there both weeks. We don’t do that for any school and it was ridiculous they asked for that. Our budget and time does not allow us to be in Ames for 10+ days.

Then they wouldn’t even let us book a smaller booth because we’re “too big and popular”. They also kept putting us next to another major tech company and it just caused an insane log jam every single year where both companies and the students just got pissed because they expected us to manage the line while also talking to all these students.

Every once in a while I’ve gone to talk at one of my old classes and I’ll just get 50+ resumes that I can’t even do anything with because of all this.
 
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They put the career fair over two weeks and required companies that wanted a certain size booth to be there both weeks. We don’t do that for any school and it was ridiculous they asked for that. Our budget and time does not allow us to be in Ames for 10+ days.

Then they wouldn’t even let us book a smaller booth because we’re “too big and popular”. They also kept putting us next to another major tech company and it just caused an insane log jam every single year where both companies and the students just got pissed because they expected us to manage the line while also talking to all these students.

Every once in a while I’ve gone to talk at one of my old classes and I’ll just get 50+ resumes that I can’t even do anything with because of all this.
Wow, yeah. I get that ISU has a huge engineering college and probably wants to make it easier on the students but you’ve got to make it appealing to employers as well. Sounds like a disservice to the students.
 

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It will. No way the Big10's plan is to just have USC & UCLA west of the Huskers.

I don't think this is anywhere near certain.

Conferences don't necessarily expand just for the purpose of expanding footprint. Generally additions have had to increase the average payout. Sometimes those things align, but not always. While UO\UW have decently high value, its nowhere near certain they have the kind of value to be additive to the big 10 deal at this point.
 

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Not exactly sure.
I work customer facing of a big tech company and my anecdotal evidence is that all the grads from the “smart” schools like Stanford, MIT, Cornell etc all flame out in a year. They can’t handle talking with customers and especially frustrated customers. People who went to State schools, especially Southern or Midwest ones like Illinois, Alabama, Georgia, ISU etc really excel.

It’s unfortunate we’ve basically stopped recruiting at ISU due to the College of Engineering screwery with career fair stuff. We’ve basically opened a major pipeline with Alabama and Georgia instead and a ton of grads get hired from them.
I had a boss (CFO) at the last company I worked for that didn’t know how to even piece a basic budget together. I took this job kinda blindly and he handed me this 3-4 line budget that he hired someone to make that he was astounded by. He was an MIT grad.

I had dead time before I could get into the facility so I sat in a corporate office and did some stuff for my side gigs. I confused him when he saw the capital budget I made for one and said he thought that was a good idea. I just thought HTF did you graduate with a masters from MIT, become CFO and have no clue what a capital budget was.
 
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I don't think this is anywhere near certain.

Conferences don't necessarily expand just for the purpose of expanding footprint. Generally additions have had to increase the average payout. Sometimes those things align, but not always. While UO\UW have decently high value, its nowhere near certain they have the kind of value to be additive to the big 10 deal at this point.
Unless they came in with some kind of additional streaming deal with new partners like Amazon and Apple to help fund it.
 

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They put the career fair over two weeks and required companies that wanted a certain size booth to be there both weeks. We don’t do that for any school and it was ridiculous they asked for that. Our budget and time does not allow us to be in Ames for 10+ days.

Then they wouldn’t even let us book a smaller booth because we’re “too big and popular”. They also kept putting us next to another major tech company and it just caused an insane log jam every single year where both companies and the students just got pissed because they expected us to manage the line while also talking to all these students.

Every once in a while I’ve gone to talk at one of my old classes and I’ll just get 50+ resumes that I can’t even do anything with because of all this.

This sounds ridiculous by the university. Is the career fair two weeks because one week is for engineering, while the second week is for business and engineering?

ISU isn’t really in a position to turn companies away. Chicago is a huge city, but a lot of businesses there have enough talent between Wisconsin, Illinois schools, and Indiana schools that they don’t need to come to Iowa; as I was told by a career advisor. But the university shouldn’t be making it harder for students to get in to more prestigious companies (leading to higher donations).
 
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This sounds ridiculous by the university. Is the career fair two weeks because one week is for engineering, while the second week is for business and engineering?

ISU isn’t really in a position to turn companies away. Chicago is a huge city, but a lot of businesses there have enough talent between Wisconsin, Illinois schools, and Indiana schools that they don’t need to come to Iowa; as I was told by a career advisor. But the university shouldn’t be making it harder for students to get in to more prestigious companies (leading to higher donations).
We only recruited at the Engineering career fair. It’s now two weeks with the Business one a day after the second Engineering one.
 

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