If we want any shot in these road games we have to cut back on the unnecessary fouls. I get it, it's part of the deal. But you can't get beat by 15 at the line in a road game and have any chance.
Iowa State vs Iowa
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Yep. Fran’s entire game plan will be to try to get free throws all day long and get our bigs in foul trouble.
I haven't watched them much. Seems like their PG Perkins is a decent player. The Murray brother is a good shooter and can fake and drive. Rebraca isn't much of a threat. Then the younger McCaffrey likes to dribble and spin in the lane for a pull up. My opinion is don't go for the pump fakes. Make them rise up and hit tough shots. If we're not in major foul trouble, we should win.
Murray is the only one I really worry about, but they have other guys who can get hot. I don't think that Kunc can stay with Murray, but Ward and Watson can. Absolutely cannot let the Sandfort kid get going. That's probably Grill's job.
Murray is the only one I really worry about, but they have other guys who can get hot. I don't think that Kunc can stay with Murray, but Ward and Watson can. Absolutely cannot let the Sandfort kid get going. That's probably Grill's job.
Really intrigued by this game. Will be a great battle of strength on strength when Iowa has the ball.
Gotta give credit to Iowa on offense they really understand spacing and are always in the right spot to find open shots/space. That’s how they beat you. They won’t out athlete/talent their opponents but they give themselves easy looks and make the open shots.
Looking forward to a lot of the individual matchups. Nearly every offensive threat they have (except Perkins) needs space to operate and be effective. Murray, Sandfort, Rebraca and Mcaf all don’t do well with physicality. Hoping Gabe K can stay out of foul trouble and stick with Murray.
Two guys I’m really looking at to rise to the occasion: Osun and Gabe. Need them.
Both haven’t done a whole lot since the game 1 in Portland vs. Nova… NEED Osun to be an impact player. I really feel like if he plays well - we win. If not - the game is close and we may lose. Gotta have him finishing at the rim, blocking shots and being active on the boards. Gabe needs to hit a few shots and limit his turnovers, he’ll bring to defensively, we know that.
Like stated in several posts above, the officiating will play a major role in this game but I’m confident it’ll be pretty neutral… so should be an excellent game.
Gotta give credit to Iowa on offense they really understand spacing and are always in the right spot to find open shots/space. That’s how they beat you. They won’t out athlete/talent their opponents but they give themselves easy looks and make the open shots.
Looking forward to a lot of the individual matchups. Nearly every offensive threat they have (except Perkins) needs space to operate and be effective. Murray, Sandfort, Rebraca and Mcaf all don’t do well with physicality. Hoping Gabe K can stay out of foul trouble and stick with Murray.
Two guys I’m really looking at to rise to the occasion: Osun and Gabe. Need them.
Both haven’t done a whole lot since the game 1 in Portland vs. Nova… NEED Osun to be an impact player. I really feel like if he plays well - we win. If not - the game is close and we may lose. Gotta have him finishing at the rim, blocking shots and being active on the boards. Gabe needs to hit a few shots and limit his turnovers, he’ll bring to defensively, we know that.
Like stated in several posts above, the officiating will play a major role in this game but I’m confident it’ll be pretty neutral… so should be an excellent game.
Barring injury I think it actually helped both on NBA path...but I have to tip the hat for Fran's masterful slow roll of his twin legacy recruits.
First off, full credit that he signed them when a lot of programs overlooked them. A lot of posters on this board made pretty stupid comments jumping the gun when they signed.
Second, it was VERY obvious that they both had the talent to start or effectively play starter minutes immediately as freshmen. If nothing else they were natural rebounders immediately who grab rebounds seemingly effortlessly. I'm not at all shocked Kris is rebounding at elite level the first time he's been given starter minutes.
Last year it was clear Kris was easily their second best player and should have been getting heavy minutes, not playing behind Fran's kids and other less skilled players. Kris's advanced metrics per minute last year were among the best in all of college basketball...I'm talking compared to All Americans in many ways he produced right with them per 40 minutes.
Fran is going to end up getting 5 seasons total out of them when if he had played them heavy minutes right away he's looking likely 1 for Keegan and 2 for Kris...maybe 2 for both, no way he has Kris as a Junior if he played them both a lot. As long as neither get hurt (one already didn't) I think it works improving their stock as first rounders drafted to play for a team vs a "project" player taken later.
Keegan is not lighting the world on fire thus far very early, but he's an NBA player and belongs. He did utterly dominate the summer league and I think can still really improve into a key player for a team. He's drastically better than Wisconsin's Johnny Davis which I was telling everybody was obvious last year (could be a bust already).
The brilliant thing is there's apparently blood loyalty with the twins (or they are just patient as ****), so it's not like Kris was going to say "screw this" and transfer after he got less minutes than Fran's kid last year even though he's 10x the player. Connor is a career 11.4 PER player and Kris is a career 26.3 PER and they both played 17 minutes a game, Patrick played 25 minutes a game. Some might think that makes Fran a bad coach...but if he had always played Kris and Keegan heavy minutes he has no Kris at all this year.
First off, full credit that he signed them when a lot of programs overlooked them. A lot of posters on this board made pretty stupid comments jumping the gun when they signed.
Second, it was VERY obvious that they both had the talent to start or effectively play starter minutes immediately as freshmen. If nothing else they were natural rebounders immediately who grab rebounds seemingly effortlessly. I'm not at all shocked Kris is rebounding at elite level the first time he's been given starter minutes.
Last year it was clear Kris was easily their second best player and should have been getting heavy minutes, not playing behind Fran's kids and other less skilled players. Kris's advanced metrics per minute last year were among the best in all of college basketball...I'm talking compared to All Americans in many ways he produced right with them per 40 minutes.
Fran is going to end up getting 5 seasons total out of them when if he had played them heavy minutes right away he's looking likely 1 for Keegan and 2 for Kris...maybe 2 for both, no way he has Kris as a Junior if he played them both a lot. As long as neither get hurt (one already didn't) I think it works improving their stock as first rounders drafted to play for a team vs a "project" player taken later.
Keegan is not lighting the world on fire thus far very early, but he's an NBA player and belongs. He did utterly dominate the summer league and I think can still really improve into a key player for a team. He's drastically better than Wisconsin's Johnny Davis which I was telling everybody was obvious last year (could be a bust already).
The brilliant thing is there's apparently blood loyalty with the twins (or they are just patient as ****), so it's not like Kris was going to say "screw this" and transfer after he got less minutes than Fran's kid last year even though he's 10x the player. Connor is a career 11.4 PER player and Kris is a career 26.3 PER and they both played 17 minutes a game, Patrick played 25 minutes a game. Some might think that makes Fran a bad coach...but if he had always played Kris and Keegan heavy minutes he has no Kris at all this year.
Perkins is a pretty good attacking guard who can get hot creating his own offense from what I saw last year and a little this year. He's still not really a true point guard in the sense that they never really seem to have a true point gaurd...but they've been calling him a point guard. He plays a little like THT and THT's natural spot is combo guard.
Will ISU be able to physically dominate them and turn them over at Carver like they did at Hilton?
I actually think the teams are kind of comparable to the year before in a lot of ways.
Agree Gabe and especially Osun are key, they need to set tone defensively to knock them out of their game like last year. If he can stay out of foul trouble I think Jones can be a nightmare for them too kind of like he bothered the more talented big men of UNC.
It's the first real road test for a guy like Osun or Holmes in an ISU uniform.
They have a strange starting lineup, basically 4 forwards and a big combo guard.
I don't think TJ will switch up the starting lineup, but Gabe matches up better than Lipsey against their starting lineup.
Holmes on Perkins
Grill on Sandtfort
Gabe on Pat
And I think I might put Jazz on Rebraca, and use Osun length and athleticism against Murray.
I don't think TJ will switch up the starting lineup, but Gabe matches up better than Lipsey against their starting lineup.
Holmes on Perkins
Grill on Sandtfort
Gabe on Pat
And I think I might put Jazz on Rebraca, and use Osun length and athleticism against Murray.
So we already have a pre-set excuse if we win...the turnaround was too quick and they were too tired. Scheduling was the culprit.
Murray is good but so far this year look at this games against remotely decent competition. It is night and day from the patsies they play.
Agree 100% with everything you said prior to this, but while that doesn’t make him a bad coach, it does make him a ****** person. I can’t think another instance of a coach retarding a player’s development for that coach’s benefit.
Was just going to post similar. He held a player back from their real potential and perhaps loses a full NBA season as a result.
Not to mention Iowa's truly a tough matchup if you had both Murray's sharing the load.
Aside from McCaffery's culture of thugging up the game and outbursts, it's weird that the fans still support him with these personnel decisions.
Perkins isn't going to get to the basket easily against us though, we should be able to slow him down.
Iowa is really good at stuffing the stat sheet against dog sh!t competition. Much like last year, defensively we should be able to speed Iowa up and force them into tougher shots. Iowa FEASTS on teams that don't pressure the ball and allow them to run a free flowing offense. Make that tough on them and those rhythm three's aren't there. We need to attack the rim against Iowa and not settle and I think we will be fine.
