Significantly over-inflated. I'm shocked anybody out there even noticed or cares that USCLA is leaving. Other than Bill Walton and a couple of Oregon fans.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Iowa/Purdue is where it's at. Alabama-Auburn pales in comparison.
Isn’t every game a trophy game for the Hawks?
Maybe UCLA game can be a miniature Rose Bowl trophy and USC can be corncob with a condom trophy.
Maybe UCLA game can be a miniature Rose Bowl trophy and USC can be corncob with a condom trophy.
I like the regional rivalries thing and something that the Big 12 fell into when they went to 10 teams was the year to year or round robin (basketball) intensity.
But nationally? Generally nobody cares. I can also tell you that while they respect their program and it's a short distance, etc., Iowa isn't the game Bucky fans have circled.
But isn't Iowa some sort of 'rival' with Rutgers or something now just cuz? That's annoying.
The PAC doesn’t dare make disparaging remarks about the BIG.
They can’t piss off Warren or FOX, as those two can just tell PAC schools “soon” and the PAC crumbles.
At this point the press is just hoping for the BIG to kill the PAC soon so they don’t have to face the realization that the Big 12 can.
Oh, I know why, I just wish someone would have had the balls to ask the question. It would be nice if someone would at least throw out that the Super Conferences are ruining college football. The Big 12 is just trying to save itself, it’s not the evil one in this mess.
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The TLDR version:
B1G is currently evaluating Oregon/WA/Stanford/Cal
If B1G passes, than we get those four + the corners.
If B1G takes them, we still get the corners.
He spoke pretty confidently that
1. There is no way/no how the PAC survives.
2. CBS may be willing to over pay for an expanded and rebranded Big 12 (they’re in danger of being shut out of the SEC/B1G).
He went on to surmise, after speaking with industry sources, that the new look Big 12 could be playing Thur/Fri/Sat after dark games.
He sounded pretty confident in all this, and that we’ll probably learn about the next expansion moves within about a month.
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The TLDR version:
B1G is currently evaluating Oregon/WA/Stanford/Cal
If B1G passes, than we get those four + the corners.
If B1G takes them, we still get the corners.
He spoke pretty confidently that
1. There is no way/no how the PAC survives.
2. CBS may be willing to over pay for an expanded and rebranded Big 12 (they’re in danger of being shut out of the SEC/B1G).
He went on to surmise, after speaking with industry sources, that the new look Big 12 could be playing Thur/Fri/Sat after dark games.
He sounded pretty confident in all this, and that we’ll probably learn about the next expansion moves within about a month.
Don't ever sleep on Maryland/Northwestern. Absolutely steeped in tradition, must watch football.
I think the Pac-12 conference is a dead man walking at least by the 2030s. The Mountain schools are going to either get out in the next year or two or risk being left out of the party in a decade.
Being proactive I believe is the better move for them, but I wouldn't be that confident that any of them will do anything.
I would lean Notre Dame staying independent, Oregon/Washington/Stanford having one foot out the door, but not getting the invite until something happens there.
I think they'll have the choice to leave or stay, and the forward/better decision will be to leave, but what's probably equally as likely is that they stay and then their presidents/ad retire in like 5-10 years before this blows up again and the Pac-12 is really toast. Basically any deal that the Pac-12 signs in the next year or two is just prolonging the inevitable (and likely reducing the leverage Mountain schools have).
Being proactive I believe is the better move for them, but I wouldn't be that confident that any of them will do anything.
I would lean Notre Dame staying independent, Oregon/Washington/Stanford having one foot out the door, but not getting the invite until something happens there.
I think they'll have the choice to leave or stay, and the forward/better decision will be to leave, but what's probably equally as likely is that they stay and then their presidents/ad retire in like 5-10 years before this blows up again and the Pac-12 is really toast. Basically any deal that the Pac-12 signs in the next year or two is just prolonging the inevitable (and likely reducing the leverage Mountain schools have).
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Yeah, I think this is a lot of it. Most of these schools are still secretly wishing that they will get a B1G invite, so they won't bash the B1G as long as that chance exists.
Dont really want 8 pac 12 teams. That feels like a merger and tells 2 teams to grt ******. Leave Cal and Stanford behind. They'll be there to take if we cant get good acc optionsThis podcast from the Athlon Sports guys is a must listen. Start at the 28:00 mark.
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The TLDR version:
B1G is currently evaluating Oregon/WA/Stanford/Cal
If B1G passes, than we get those four + the corners.
If B1G takes them, we still get the corners.
He spoke pretty confidently that
1. There is no way/no how the PAC survives.
2. CBS may be willing to over pay for an expanded and rebranded Big 12 (they’re in danger of being shut out of the SEC/B1G).
He went on to surmise, after speaking with industry sources, that the new look Big 12 could be playing Thur/Fri/Sat after dark games.
He sounded pretty confident in all this, and that we’ll probably learn about the next expansion moves within about a month.
I'd take 8 in a heartbeat because it would slay that conference. We'd be at 20. There's probably only 4 or so ACC teams that would even make any sense to add after their bones are picked clean by the SEC and Big 10.
Despite how it seems I really do think there's an upper limit to who you can add before there's nobody else who adds value. I dont personally want to add a nothing school in Cal when we can wait a bit for a Pitt, VT, or Louisville who have much better fan bases and have history with member teams already.
The Pac 12 doesn't need to die for us to live either. They just need to be obviously not our level. Taking the mountian schools or Oregon and Washington is enough
Also overall idk why we should want conferences to die if they dont need to. More places for teams to play is good for the sport
I can attest to that, as I have been to both "Rivalry" Games!
Purdue vs. Iowa "Is the Tits!"
Especially, when PU wins.
Similar to @CoKane response, I don't see a need to expand to 20 simply to kill Pac. Losing 2 forces immediate back-fill decision. I guess if 8 schools seriously want to come, I'm not going to swat 'em away. But my guess is 8 wouldn't come all at once. Eventually 4 or 6 might land here.
I agree somewhat with your ACC assessment, whatever is leftover isn’t worth turning away Pac interest in the short-term. ACC's implosion timeline is too uncertain to assess at this point. But as CoKane noted, it has a couple of leftovers that would fit well enough with Big 12 Eastern Bloc, if membership goes past 16.
Also agree w/ CoKane, I don’t want leagues to die for the sake of death … selfishly as fan of Big 12 program, it does require “dwindling.”
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I'm fine with one Thursday or Friday night game. Multiple is where it's annoying, IMO.
Kansas should be relegated to weeknights anyways...
Kansas should be relegated to weeknights anyways...
We’d have room for both all of those imo. The chance those are available and the Big 20 hadn’t lost schools is very unlikely, but we’d have room for 4 ACC schools even if Big 20.
One unwanted school, Cal in this example, should not stop getting 90% of what is wanted. The difference between Cal and whatever school Cal would force out is immaterial in the big picture.
It is not just killing the PAC, it is removing the chance ESPN kills the Big 12. A Big 16/18/20 all make nearly certain the Big 12 survives. You don’t pass on that because of Cal inclusion,.
The Pac sticking together increases the chance ESPN exploits the big 12 schools in the east and Houston to get Big 12 dissolution in helping their ACC dilemma. The bait and switch odds high, but with unequal revenue sharing, they could maybe appease FSU and Co, adding WVU, Houston, and Cincinnati, getting the rest of the Big 12 to blink- some to PAC and some to ACC. Likely leaving ISU and KSU out
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I'd say Fridays are annoying. High school football is big in Texas and many other states. Feel like it would always be terrible ratings. Leave Friday night for the fun belt and aac.
I have zero interest in any of what will be the available ACC schools.
They are kinda gross and not appealing.
They are kinda gross and not appealing.
