If you had you'd know that he keeps hammering on Pac 12 teams moving to the Big 12
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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There was a short time, when the big 12 had renegotiated their TV deal, before the b1g had, that the big 12 schools were making more than than the b1g per school. The years the league was able to get away with just 10 schools and get bigger splits of that TV money/more TV exposure were incredibly important long term for the mid/lower end programs.
Pac 12 doesn't have that luxury, they lost their version of Ou/UT before they lost their Colorado, Mizzou, Nebraska. Big 12 wouldn't have survived if the exits were switched around. I feel like a lot of pac 12 fans and media are looking at the big 12 and thinking that if that lousy league survived, we can too. They don't get that the situations just aren't comparable.
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Great way to put it. I often wonder how the **** KU went through that era and still has a crap football facility. I mean even if their program sucks, just get the thing built while you can. So glad we upped to big time stadium then.
Bastards that they are, we were fortunate there were paths to reform around OU/Texas where Big 12 still made record money and keep pace, for a time.
It turned out that CU and Nebraska were not really horrific brands/markets/teams to lose. A&M was a big piece to lose because it invited the SEC into our key market in a major way. Missouri is hard to figure out.
I think BYU and WVU are probably equal or better programs than the four original defectors. Like you said, the mid tier programs left first so you can replace them with more mid tier or polish up a TCU.
Oh, you don't have to tell me and I wasn't talking about big 10 fans. I was talking about the administration. There has been a combined effort to try and destroy the Big 12 since the first break up and it wasn't because the Big 12 played terrible football.
Most Big 10 fans are so arrogant, they don't think anything will disrupt their dominance. I have an acquaintance from Iowa who constantly tells me, "Bring Bama up here in November and we'll show them how to play football." But, he also thinks that Budweiser is the best beer because it's the biggest US brewery. Just because you have the most money, doesn't mean your product is any good.
Couldn't agree more. Dude must be drowning himself in Bud if he wants bama, you cant even stay on the field with michigan but you want bama, sure. ISU will be passing up Iowa in the recruiting rankings regularly in the next few years as long as CMC stays around.
I agree with the first sentence, but not the last. CMC is a great coach and recruiter, but I don't think he will be passing up Iowa in recruiting anytime soon.
He won't, especially with negative recruiting against lower tier conferences and NIL + Portal. It'll get easier for B1G programs and harder for B12 programs from here going forward.
Obv I could be wrong and I will readily admit that everyone on this board knows more about iowa/isu recruiting then I do but last year the classes were virtually the same (both had two 4 stars) and this year Iowa is being propped up by one insanely good 5 star otherwise the classes are the same again. I would just assume that with ISU's rise and iowa getting a couple more L's with the schedule changes that ISU would pass them up at some point.
*pulled the rankings from 247, also didn't mean to derail this from the topic.
ISU had 7 more commits in their class last year compared to Iowa and ISU still finished 9 spots lower than Iowa. This year I would expect Iowa to finish in the low 30s and ISU in the mid 40s. With NIL and the disparity in funds, I think that gaps widen a bit more. Plus, you can't just take out the 5 star recruit and say the classes are similar. That is like saying we shut down your running back if it wasn't for that 90 yard TD run.
Why is it okay to discount the number of commits, but not to discount the one-off effects of a generational talent?
I think he was referring to the Big 12 at the turn of the century that was winning national championships. Either way, ESPN and Fox are as much responsible as the conferences.
Because normally classes fluctuate from year to year depending on how much room you have. I value the average ranking over the overall ranking mostly. But I'm ok with it the way it is, Iowa still finished 9 spots higher.
It is still the official name. Next time they issue bonds you can buy one with that name on it.
Iowa is at 19 and ISU at 33 currently. A lot of teams behind them will probably pass up both schools by signing day.
Yeah I guess I was thinking about in state recruiting. It's the first year we've beaten Iowa at their own game.
STOP WITH THE IOWA **** IN THIS THREAD!! **** IOWA! **** THE HAWKEYES WITH A CHAINSAW!!
I had an Iowa fan say this to me about Troy Davis every year he played.
Also that he would have been 2nd string (maybe even 3rd) behind Sedrick Shaw.
