Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

AlaCyclone

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Duke has a huge national brand, massively respected global university. Even though their FB kinda bites, the others aren't Alabama either - you have to take Duke in that instance. Then pick one of GT, VT, and LV - don't care much there. Weight out the tv markets, alumni base et al and pick the best fit.

Second thought, just take ALL what you have listed and go to 24. 3 protected rivalries, and play 5 of the other 20 - so you'd cycle thru the league in 4 years time. Or do old school, three 8 team divisions, take the champs and a wildcard for a conference playoff.
Duke would be an AWESOME get for the Big Xii! FWIW, I've been to a football game @ Duke, and it is a cool old stadium that actually hosted the 1942 Rose Bowl.
 

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Old Georgia recruiting trick for players considering both GT and UGA. Give the recruit two books: One the UGA (fake) playbook and the other a GT Calculus book! It's still a requirement for all GT grads to take Calculus, as far as I know.

Basic calculus isn't hard, though (I get what you're saying, but still).
 

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I wonder what he majored in.

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Ah yes, good point.

But when others are talking $100M+ per for B1G I am sure that includes all of that too.

Seem like a lot of numbers are being thrown out there. And I have no idea who is including what in them.

Tier 1,2,3. Bowls, playoffs, ads. Conf pay, just tv money?

I think that is part of the problem with all of this, I have seen anywhere from 30-75M being talked about for the Big 12, that is a huge variance. And anywhere from 80-150M for the B1G.

Does anyone actually know, is it just guessing. I think its more of the same... a hell of a lot of guessing, with a lot of media types drastically undervaluing the Big 12 as usual.
Yep and I'd be willing to bet $100M isn't a 2024 figure. More like 2028/29.

Even today with a 4 team playoff, those games plus NY6 bring like $80M to each of the P5 conferences. So if a 12 team playoff brings $1.5-2.0B, that would be crazy money depending on the split methodology.
 
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I am going to guess he was never enrolled at U of I
I mean Vodka Sam went there so...
And She was planning on getting .341 tattooed on herself. You just never know with the Hoks.


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Let's hypothetically say these are the moves:
B1G: USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Notre Dame
SEC: UVA, UNC, Clemson, FSU

What teams do you add to Big 12 and how big do you go? Those moves power 2 to 20 each.

I'd say let's go to 20 as well with 8 invites:

AZ/ASU/Utah/Colorado (the mountain 4 everyone is talking about)
Miami
Pitt
Georgia Tech
Va Tech

On deck: Cal, Louisville, NC State, Duke,

Big 12 becomes coast to coast except no new england and no pacific northwest.
Well I just made a post about this exactly in premium so I'll just repost my idea:

Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Utah

Pittsburgh
Miami
Louisville
Virginia Tech
 

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Duke has a huge national brand, massively respected global university. Even though their FB kinda bites, the others aren't Alabama either - you have to take Duke in that instance. Then pick one of GT, VT, and LV - don't care much there. Weight out the tv markets, alumni base et al and pick the best fit.

Second thought, just take ALL what you have listed and go to 24. 3 protected rivalries, and play 5 of the other 20 - so you'd cycle thru the league in 4 years time. Or do old school, three 8 team divisions, take the champs and a wildcard for a conference playoff.
I for sure get why someone would want Duke to come in the Big 12, but man would that feel odd. If I had to pick between them and someone of equal value I'd lean towards the other team because most others from the ACC feel like more natural picks. Duke feels very Maryland in the Big 10 like
 
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It was when you couldn't understand a word the associate professor spoke AND you attain drinking age that semester!!

No, it was only hard my first semester when my prof was more interested in teaching and testing math theory than he was in teaching the calculus that was in the textbook. I retook the same class the next semester with a professor that was sane and I aced the class.

But your point also stands.
 

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Well I just made a post about this exactly in premium so I'll just repost my idea:

Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Utah

Pittsburgh
Miami
Louisville
Virginia Tech

I haven't paid much attention to the ACC talk today other than speculation with big names going to SEC. Personally, I am skeptical that UNC or UVA to SEC has any legs. If money is equal, I would think they go Big10. That would be a lifeline to Maryland. Add a couple of Maryland's old ACC rivals and it polishes Maryland up a bit. Also in the SEC, UNC or UVA are just more of the same. However, in the Big10 they are different from a recruiting base.

A school I don't see on your list above is NC State. I would be curious how the TV folks value NC State vs. Pitt or Va Tech. I do like the later two as rivals for WVU.

I could see a subscription based streaming partner wanting a very large Big12/ACC/Pac12 combination. Maybe a handful of schools not making the cut. But giving fans of those 25-30 schools solid games and a reason not to tune into ESPN or Fox on Saturdays.
 

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I for sure get why someone would want Duke to come in the Big 12, but man would that feel odd. If I had to pick between them and someone of equal value I'd lean towards the other team because most others from the ACC feel like more natural picks. Duke feels very Maryland in the Big 10 like
To be fair Dukes, BBall program is worth double what Kansas' is. The one that KU loves to brag about it so valuable. And Louisville Bball is worth more than their Football.

While everyone knows this is about football, but its funny looking at how valuable KU thinks their Bball program is, yet it brings in less than half what Duke and Louisville does.

I would say those two might have a legitimate say that their Bball actually brings some value.

Program revenue when divided by sport.

49. Louisville BB $42M
51. Ku FB $40.5M
53. Duke FB $39.6M
57. Duke BB $37M
100. KU BB $16.5M

 

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I haven't paid much attention to the ACC talk today other than speculation with big names going to SEC. Personally, I am skeptical that UNC or UVA to SEC has any legs. If money is equal, I would think they go Big10. That would be a lifeline to Maryland. Add a couple of Maryland's old ACC rivals and it polishes Maryland up a bit. Also in the SEC, UNC or UVA are just more of the same. However, in the Big10 they are different from a recruiting base.

A school I don't see on your list above is NC State. I would be curious how the TV folks value NC State vs. Pitt or Va Tech. I do like the later two as rivals for WVU.

I could see a subscription based streaming partner wanting a very large Big12/ACC/Pac12 combination. Maybe a handful of schools not making the cut. But giving fans of those 25-30 schools solid games and a reason not to tune into ESPN or Fox on Saturdays.
Left off NC State because them and Duke just feel kinda weird in the conference. Compared them to Maryland in the Big 10 where the reasoning makes sense but seeing them actually on the field/court just feels like it makes no sense. Miami I think is an easy and obvious take both money wise and to give UCF a more natural rivalry. I feel like Louisville, Pitt, and VT are probably similar to NC State in revenue and also have more natural rivalries. Pitt and VT are 2 of West Virginias big rivals and Louisville has the Big East tie in against WVU and Cincy. Then Miami and VT have also been playing each other forever across the Big East and ACC.