Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[KnappShack]

Its this for me. It seems odd UCLA would be allowed to leave Cal behind. And if you're picking up private schools in CA, why in the hell do you leave Stanford out?

USC/Stanford seems more plausible for me.

Oklahoma kicked OSU to the curb.

Money is ******* evil in college athletics

 

[Hoggins]

Its this for me. It seems odd UCLA would be allowed to leave Cal behind. And if you're picking up private schools in CA, why in the hell do you leave Stanford out?

USC/Stanford seems more plausible for me.

I think we'll see those schools added quickly. Along with Oregon and Washington

 

[Trice]

Yep. Nothing about realignment since the formation of the B12 has been good for the sport overall. You see it in dwindling attendance numbers. Concentration of all the athletes at fewer schools will give those teams incredible depth, but also locker rooms that are nasty to manage. Good luck. Iowa State will continue to exist but we’re going to be the equivalent of FCS now, along with everyone else outside of the SEC and B1G.

The fact that due to geography and dumb luck, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and Rutgers will somehow have more of a piece of the pie than us, or Oklahoma State, or now most of the Pac-12 schools, is just ludicrous.

I'm of two minds on this. One is that if these forming "super leagues" were smart they'd drop the dead weight and concentrate their power and wealth even further. The other is that they know they need that dead weight around because somebody has to absorb all those losses.

Sports are about to be really, really unpleasant at a lot of these schools.

 

[SCNCY]

The Big 10 may go for Oregon and Washington next. After that, they would try to decide between Colorado and Stanford (to woo Notre Dame).

Notre Dame last stated that they didn't want to join the BIG because the only school that was similar was Northwestern. If the BIG states, we now have USC and can add Stanford, does that make you more comfortable? I can't see Notre Dame in the SEC, even if the SEC has Vanderbilt and and adds Miami and Duke (assuming Duke basketball doesn't fall off the table).

Notre Dame is arrogant enough to remain independent. The only way that changes is if the other conferences don't give them an individual seat at the table.

 

[Cloneon]

Wow was I wrong and misinformed on this one. Seems like USC and UCLA reached out the big ten and wanted to get a deal done quickly on the sly like OUT. Big ten floated the numbers to the media people and got a lot of positive feedback on just adding the two schools as opposed to going larger. Nothing has been voted on and the presidents have yet to weigh in on it but if this pans out I need to eat some crow on this one.

How can they 'float' the numbers without the media contracts being 'back doored'. There's some illegal crap going on in the back alleys.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

The Big 10 may go for Oregon and Washington next. After that, they would try to decide between Colorado and Stanford (to woo Notre Dame).

I could absolutely see the B1G add Oregon and Washington and play as an 18-team conference where there are two 9-team divisions that change every year; you play your division (and every team you play also plays everyone else).

In that case, the Big 12 would absolutely snap up Colorado, both Arizona schools, and who knows who else.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Yep. Nothing about realignment since the formation of the B12 has been good for the sport overall. You see it in dwindling attendance numbers. Concentration of all the athletes at fewer schools will give those teams incredible depth, but also locker rooms that are nasty to manage. Good luck. Iowa State will continue to exist but we’re going to be the equivalent of FCS now, along with everyone else outside of the SEC and B1G.

The fact that due to geography and dumb luck, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and Rutgers will somehow have more of a piece of the pie than us, or Oklahoma State, or now most of the Pac-12 schools, is just ludicrous.

If you think this all started with the Big 12, then you weren't paying attention to the CFA stuff in the 1980s.

 

[CloneGuy8]

So SEC will pluck Clemson, FSU, Miami, and probably a 4th - North Carolina? Figure Stanford and Cal to the Big 10 eventually. Washington and Oregon Big 10 lean IMO.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Are we sure the opposite doesn’t happen and Big 12 schools get poached?

Why would any B12 school want to move to the Pac 12 without USC and UCLA, its a lateral or downward move.

If they are interested, you grab Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Colorado, those schools become the Western pod in a 16 teams, 4 pod league.

 

[werdnamanhill]

Glass half full: we add some PAC schools

Glass half empty: PAC adds some Big12 schools, we're ******

 

[Gunnerclone]

Not good for the sport, but then neither were the last 157 rounds of realignment. Happy to be spectating on this one.

And it’s not necessarily realignment is bad, it’s that it’s seemingly never ending. Need some stability for a decade or two.

 

[Acylum]

We should get Bowlsby out and the new guy in ASAP.

 

[KnappShack]

I would like to welcome new Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark!

Good luck!

 

[Gunnerclone]

Glass half full: we add some PAC schools

Glass half empty: PAC adds some Big12 schools, we're ******

Pac 12 is done if USC and UCLA leave. Who are they going to take from the new Big 12 that could even get them
1/4 of the way to the value and prestige that USC/UCLA provide?

 

[Cyforce]

How's that alliance working out now?

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Why would any B12 school want to move to the Pac 12 without USC and UCLA, its a lateral or downward move.

If they are interested, you grab Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Colorado, those schools become the Western pod in a 16 teams, 4 pod league.

I want you to be right and I think you are but I'm not sure. If Oregon and Washington and the rest stay put, I could see Kansas preferring a west coast affiliation and going to the Pac-12 along with one more school (it is possible that Iowa State gets that invite; I bet more likely it would be Texas Tech or even Houston). The money between a new Pac-12 and new Big 12 will likely be similar but who knows yet? And KU would like the "academic prestige" of being in a league with Stanford, Cal, UW.

 

[Trice]

Pretty critical second sentence there.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Utah, Colorado and Arizona schools to the Big 12

Washington and Oregon to the Big 10

Oregon State and Washington State to the Mountain West

Stanford actually really fits the ACC well but there's no way that happens. Cal better hope academics matter to someone.

This also might be the way to get Notre Dame into the Big 10.

 

[jdoggivjc]

I'm of two minds on this. One is that if these forming "super leagues" were smart they'd drop the dead weight and concentrate their power and wealth even further. The other is that they know they need that dead weight around because somebody has to absorb all those losses.

Sports are about to be really, really unpleasant at a lot of these schools.

If/when this happens, then I'm a big fan of the NFL moving games to Saturdays.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Notre Dame is arrogant enough to remain independent. The only way that changes is if the other conferences don't give them an individual seat at the table.

I think if the actual Notre Dame bottom line was made public it would be an absolutely crazy number.