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Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

FriendlySpartan said:
Bowl games are kinda meaningless now so that makes total sense but the regular season games are still doing extremely well.
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Yes but what everyone is trying to tell you is it won't say that way especially with all these TV deals being so tilted towards the Big ten and the SEC.

Eventually it's going to become extremely obvious that it's not a fair playing field and not that it really was before but it's certainly not going to be now.
 
BWRhasnoAC said:
Yes but what everyone is trying to tell you is it won't say that way especially with all these TV deals being so tilted towards the Big ten and the SEC.

Eventually it's going to become extremely obvious that it's not a fair playing field and not that it really was before but it's certainly not going to be now.
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Kinda made my point, it wasn't fair before and it wont be fair now, so nothing is really changing. Yeah there will be a little chaos at the top in terms of recruiting but neither of our schools are competing for that top talent.
 
BWRhasnoAC said:
It won't stay that way once the scales tip towards the Blue bloods. TV ratings have been dropping from bowl games for years and currently Iowa state has some of the highest watched games in the last few years.
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Bowl game ratings were up. ISU vs. Clemson was our most viewed game on television all year.
 
FriendlySpartan said:
Its not a waste when competing for top talent but you have no idea if he is leaving for money. When Isheem Young transfered the board lost its mind saying he was going to get ten's or 100's of thousands to go play somewhere. He ended up going to ole miss and got a $450 pair of blue jeans.
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I agree with this. Maybe Hunter didn't think TJ's offensive system enabled him to work enough on that part of his game. Maybe he wanted a whole different style of play to grow his talents.
 
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FriendlySpartan said:
Kinda made my point, it wasn't fair before and it wont be fair now, so nothing is really changing. Yeah there will be a little chaos at the top in terms of recruiting but neither of our schools are competing for that top talent.
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There were rules before. Were people breaking them? Yes. But now there are no rules. And now its obvious to all fans of the lower level teams. And when those fans stop tuning in the golden goose will be dead. That's really all there is to it.
 
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FriendlySpartan said:
Bowl games are kinda meaningless now so that makes total sense but the regular season games are still doing extremely well.
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I'd guess that will change as more players opt for the draft or transfer portal in mid-October or at least well before the regular season is over.

Bowl games have always generally been meaningless outside of the NYD or championship games but at least star players were highlighted. Now it's basically a scrimmage to get the replacements of those stars some game time.
 
madguy30 said:
I'd guess that will change as more players opt for the draft or transfer portal in mid-October or at least well before the regular season is over.

Bowl games have always generally been meaningless outside of the NYD or championship games but at least star players were highlighted. Now it's basically a scrimmage to get the replacements of those stars some game time.
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If a player opts for the transfer portal mid season then they most likely werent playing so it wouldn't have an effect. Early opt outs might though but those are pretty rare that early in the season.
 
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FriendlySpartan said:
If a player opts for the transfer portal mid season then they most likely werent playing so it wouldn't have an effect. Early opt outs might though but those are pretty rare that early in the season.
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I'm saying that's going to become more and more common.

Mid-October might be an exaggeration but I wouldn't put it past the current culture of college athletics. That goes for players who get plenty of PT as well.
 
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1UNI2ISU said:
And people will still tune in in droves to watch the product.
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You mean like how attendance and ratings have generally been dropping for the last decade?

The moves conferences\schools have been making have been increasingly negative, ignoring what made college athletics great and making things worse for fans, all in search of more bucks to fund the arms races. Its having the predictable effects.
 
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Tornado man said:
I agree with this. Maybe Hunter didn't think TJ's offensive system enabled him to work enough on that part of his game. Maybe he wanted a whole different style of play to grow his talents.
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Chicken or the egg, maybe TJ had to adjust his game plan because most of the players, including Hunter were terrible on offense. Maybe he should have shot higher than 27% from 3 and we might have scored more.
 
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alarson said:
You mean like how attendance and ratings have generally been dropping for the last decade?

The moves conferences\schools have been making have been increasingly negative, ignoring what made college athletics great and making things worse for fans, all in search of more bucks to fund the arms races. Its having the predictable effects.
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I don't disagree with this but attendance and ratings are two very different things. While the playoff ratings have been on the decline the regular season does very well especially compared to declining tv ratings in general. The ability of sports to force an audience to watch tv live is what generates the big bucks as im sure you know.
 
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alarson said:
You mean like how attendance and ratings have generally been dropping for the last decade?

The moves conferences\schools have been making have been increasingly negative, ignoring what made college athletics great and making things worse for fans, all in search of more bucks to fund the arms races. Its having the predictable effects.
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TV networks are going to be paying literally billions of dollars to show these games. Live sports is the only thing keeping cable/satellite/pre-bundled streaming viable and in business. ESPN owns a dozen plus bowl games because people watch them live which is invaluable to advertisers.

Attendance is dropping because of how much more comfortable and cheaper it is to watch from your couch. It's all interrelated.
 
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1UNI2ISU said:
TV networks are going to be paying literally billions of dollars to show these games. Live sports is the only thing keeping cable/satellite/pre-bundled streaming viable and in business. ESPN owns a dozen plus bowl games because people watch them live which is invaluable to advertisers.

Attendance is dropping because of how much more comfortable and cheaper it is to watch from your couch. It's all interrelated.
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They are paying more because live tv is worth more in the era where everyone can skip commercials. Even with that, viewership has been dropping as well as attendance.
 
BWRhasnoAC said:
Yes but what everyone is trying to tell you is it won't say that way especially with all these TV deals being so tilted towards the Big ten and the SEC.

Eventually it's going to become extremely obvious that it's not a fair playing field and not that it really was before but it's certainly not going to be now.
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A common theme of this thread is to point out the playing field has never been 100% perfectly level, so that somehow means any new changes won't have any impact and it's impossible for things to get more slanted.

It's completely nonsensical.

The guy pointing out that we were the 45th best combined sports program and will still be the 45th best program is a great example, total blinders to seeing the hill he lives on becoming steeper by the year.

Historical/geographical inequity (a given) + movement toward super conferences + NIL money + more open transfer rules...all of these things add up to a more challenging future for ISU athletics and most other programs in terms of wanting to at least compete. Nobody is claiming 70+ programs realistically had a shot at being #1, another thing people are rationalizing to make themselves feel better.

Who knows if ISU and comparable programs will rise to the challenge or not, but to pretend there aren't an increasing amount of hurdles is silly. It's entirely possible college football in particular has peaked in popularity when we are regularly talking about a small super conference that excludes half the states in the country compared to the status quo where college football is crazy popular in non NFL markets.
 
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