Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

[WastedTalent]

I do hope someone has his ear about the NBA prospects. UNC has Caleb Love (for now), RJ Davis, is in the running on Kendric Davis and has top 30 recruit Seth Trimble coming in. Not to mention you have Bacot as the focal point of the offense.

Or you stay here and it’s your team.

Fwiw, whether there's any truth to any of this, I think Hunter is good enough to have a significant role at UNC. He'd be a facilitator pg, and wouldn't have to be a great shooter or scorer. I think his defense alone is good enough to play for anyone in the country.

 

[WhoISthis]

750k isn't much. If that's the going rate, then JP needs to get off his soapbox and get the well connected ISU people together at a "compliance" meeting and get a NIL group started.

Long-term, it would be better to have 1000 season ticket holders to instead do NIL. It wouldn't even need to be 1000, as buying a player is much better than donating to a building for most small donors.

 

[GetAwesome]

I blame Twitter's Board of Directors on this entire fiasco. They paid to start unfounded transfer rumors to generate rampant Cyclone twitter traffic, thus boosting Twitter's overall valuation to price out Elon Musk's takeover attempt.

 

[jakemcilroy]

Unless EVERY one of these NIL deals is “new” money that would have never been available/donated to the school then the fundraising efforts have to be getting harder for NCC, I-Club, whatever your school has.

 

[Hestia_Abnegation11]

 

[Zyklon]

750k isn't much. If that's the going rate, then JP needs to get off his soapbox and get the well connected ISU people together at a "compliance" meeting and get a NIL group started.

Long-term, it would be better to have 1000 season ticket holders to instead do NIL. It wouldn't even need to be 1000, as buying a player is much better than donating to a building for most small donors.

Yep. And they HAVE to make it as easy as possible for regular people like me to be able to throw a few hundred bucks in the pot whenever we can/want.

 

[isucy86]

You can’t blame him, but I blame the system that seems like it’s the Wild West now. I was ok with the no sit out rule, but now there is no incentive to stay at a school.

I blame the NBA. Instead of Congress focusing on how the NCAA is greedy, maybe they should spend equal time on why the NBA prohibits HS graduates from earning a living by entering the NBA Draft. And maybe the NBA should have a minor league system like MLB baseball.

Same goes for the NFL. They should have a minor league for HS kids. Maybe it is something like 10 teams and kids are drafted from the NFL minors or college. But if a kid is ready or isn't interesting getting a college education or wants to get paid- then there is a minor league for them.

 

[WhoISthis]

Unless EVERY one of these NIL deals is “new” money that would have never been available/donated to the school then the fundraising efforts have to be getting harder for NCC, I-Club, whatever your school has.

That fundraising was largely for the infrastructure and coaching arms race- a means to buy players indirectly. That is horribly inefficient way to get wins.

Getting better players much more efficient and effect way to donate to get wins. In many ways, ISU is at less of a disadvantage if the AD had been out front. Facilities building are an even more expensive game in comparison. History and tradition not something you can even buy. 500k for a difference making starter in basketball is far more feasible for smaller donors.

This is why guys like Saban complain, even though they still have the upper hand. In the old way- building new locker-room every 10 years and history/tradition, they have damn near a monopoly. Obviously, if Iowa St can't manage to raise or redirect 500k of its available resources, then there is no system that it will survive in. But with a competent AD, this is not bad for the middle or low class.

 

[WastedTalent]

750k isn't much. If that's the going rate, then JP needs to get off his soapbox and get the well connected ISU people together at a "compliance" meeting and get a NIL group started.

Long-term, it would be better to have 1000 season ticket holders to instead do NIL. It wouldn't even need to be 1000, as buying a player is much better than donating to a building for most small donors.

Gofundme style.
If there was a place to donate toward Johni Broome coming to Iowa St, and if he didn't then you get your money back... I'd be inclined to donate 3 figures.
Kind of ****** for the iowa st players that are on roster though.

 

[thisISnextyear]

Yep. And they HAVE to make it as easy as possible for regular people like me to be able to throw a few hundred bucks in the pot whenever we can/want.

With all of the folks from the student section thread who sit together with 8+ family and friends in the SE corner of JTS pooling their donation money we should be able to match the UNC offer no problem and have some extra spending cash to pick up another portal transfer.

 

[jakemcilroy]

I would pay $500 right now via Venmo if guaranteed Hunter would play at Iowa State next year and I’m not rich by any means. I’m guessing we could could find $750,000 in just a few days. However, that in and of itself, opens up a whole new can of worms.

 

[carvers4math]

We seem to push a lot of guys out. Only fair that guys can choose to leave for whatever reason. I’m rooting for the Daily to be right however.

 

[Cydkar]

Well, that’s the problem though. How do you think you can compete with this? Where do you get the money? I think it falls on the kid on what is important to him. If he wants money then they will go where they get paid. If you want to build something and see it through you stay.

I don’t think people really have the type of loyalty they used to

People are as loyal as their options.

 

[WhoISthis]

Gofundme style.
If there was a place to donate toward Johni Broome coming to Iowa St, and if he didn't then you get your money back... I'd be inclined to donate 3 figures.
Kind of ****** for the iowa st players that are on roster though.

Look at my post count. I am susceptible to wasting my life on ISU athletics, let alone my money.

If JP's designated NIL solicitor hits me after drinking and he'll have no problem swaying me. In the euphoria of celebrating the WI win, I'd probably sell assets to buy another scorer for next year. And I hate to go there, but there are certain marketing techniques that do very well on hot tailgate days.

Compliance is kind of an issue. Many AD's have used "compliance" training as a way to help shape and organize the NIL efforts.

 

[dabears32]

So what's the latest speculation? He's our starting PG?

 

[Cyclones125]

I blame the NBA. Instead of Congress focusing on how the NCAA is greedy, maybe they should spend equal time on why the NBA prohibits HS graduates from earning a living by entering the NBA Draft. And maybe the NBA should have a minor league system like MLB baseball.

Same goes for the NFL. They should have a minor league for HS kids. Maybe it is something like 10 teams and kids are drafted from the NFL minors or college. But if a kid is ready or isn't interesting getting a college education or wants to get paid- then there is a minor league for them.

NBA G league started allowing players from HS a year or two ago. Jalen Green among several others went that route successfully. NCAA is still the best way to get exposure though if going to the NBA is a players end goal

 

[isucy86]

That fundraising was largely for the infrastructure and coaching arms race- a means to buy players indirectly. That is horribly inefficient way to get wins.

Getting better players much more efficient and effect way to donate to get wins. In many ways, ISU is at less of a disadvantage if the AD had been out front. Facilities building are an even more expensive game in comparison. History and tradition not something you can even buy. 500k for a difference making starter in basketball is far more feasible for smaller donors.

I agree that NIL will force most Athletic Departments (like ISU) go-forward to prioritize NIL funding vs. salaries or facilities. But I think the decision making goes higher than Athletic Directors with University Presidents deciding how their school approaches NIL funding.

Same goes with push to classify student-athletes as employees. Some schools might feel that goes too far from a liability and compensation for other student/grad student employees.

 

[jakemcilroy]

I agree that NIL will force most Athletic Departments (like ISU) go-forward to prioritize NIL funding vs. salaries or facilities. But I think the decision making goes higher than Athletic Directors with University Presidents deciding how their school approaches NIL funding.

Same goes with push to classify student-athletes as employees. Some schools might feel that goes too far from a liability and compensation for other student/grad student employees.

I have never seen one realistic way for student-athletes to become employees (where the money comes directly from the school) AND be in compliant of Title IX. It’s literally not feasible.

 

[isucy86]

NBA G league started allowing players from HS a year or two ago. Jalen Green among several others went that route successfully. NCAA is still the best way to get exposure though if going to the NBA is a players end goal

Yep, the NBA dipped their toes. And I think it is just a matter of a few years before the majority of the top 30-50 players go the G-League route. At that point, the development paradigm shifts to the G-League.

Just look what is happening with HS basketball. The number of Prep "Schools" has exploded over the last 5 years. At some point it wouldn't surprise me if we don't see Prep "School" kids getting paid.

 

[WhoISthis]

I agree that NIL will force most Athletic Departments (like ISU) go-forward to prioritize NIL funding vs. salaries or facilities. But I think the decision making goes higher than Athletic Directors with University Presidents deciding how their school approaches NIL funding.

Same goes with push to classify student-athletes as employees. Some schools might feel that goes too far from a liability and compensation for other student/grad student employees.

Those schools have to wonder if their leaders are not antiquated.
JP and Wendy can be against NIL while preparing to be as successful as possible if college athletics goes that way.

Let's be honest, this type of thing is not JP's strength. He hasn't done much, if anything, in terms of changing the donor culture or percentage in 16 years. He's more an accountant, fiscal management type (outside the Pollard and Light).

We will never compete in facility arms race. 500k for basketball starters we can. NIL will go past that, but we should have been ready to compete for as long as the market allowed for it.