Is Weber out a KSU?
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It's all the school he's coached at most recently. I haven't spent a ton of time on KSU social, but I'd venture to say most fanbases that are passionate have gotten more, not less toxic, on social media over the last 6-10 years.
LOL he's an idiot. It's the only school he's been associated with since social media was really popular.
I would say jobs are about equal. KSU has done more recently.
MU is struggling after two hires that really didn't pan out.
K-State has always been better than Missouri hoops. Yes, MIZ had some good years, but their historical records are not alike. And it's certainly not a "recent" thing.
Conference championships since WW2
Missouri: 1976, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1987, 1990, 1994
K-State: 1948, 1950, 1951, 1956, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1963, 1964, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1973, 1977, 2013, 2019
Better success in the 50' and 60's does not make it a better job for a coach looking today. KSU has had little to no success in my lifetime. Also, your 2013 championship was shared with KU who beat you 3 times that season by a combined 42 points, so that's really just a technicality.
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Surly, I'm on your side here. MU had greater success, although modest, and was a better gig from 80s-early 00s.
Since Snyder left town MU has been a shell. Think there's still a bit more sleeping giant if they can land tge right hire though.
Jans is an Iowa native, went to Loras College, started his coaching career at Kirkwood. Would be a little funny for both major K-State sports to be led by Iowans.
No one is disputing historical records Surly. I really don’t think that matters much to recruits, especially what happened before their grandparents could have been born.
Both jobs are average among P6 conferences. K States more attractive due to being in a better basketball conference, Mizzou is more attractive due to being easier in terms of schedule. If you had 10 aspiring head coaches in a room it would be 50/50 as to their preference.
Well, that's probably true. After all, I wrote earlier that these are equal gigs. What matters is who is coaching.
But don't write that Missouri is a better basketball program than K-State's because that's patently false by any measure.
Last 10 years:
Missouri 151-168 47% 2 NCAAs
K-State 184-147 56% 4 NCAAs 1 Conference championship
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I wonder if Mizzou could afford to pay more than K-State given the financial uncertainty in the Big 12 and the ocean of cash being distributed to SEC ADs.
K-State has consistently outperformed Missouri's financials, albeit Missouri spends a lot more.
Not by any measure.
Since 1990:
Mizzou - 16 NCAA appearances. 8 second round appearances, 3 Elite 8’s.
K-State - 11 NCAA appearances. 5 second round appearances , 2 Elite 8’s.
Pre- 1990, sure.
Post-1990: Mizzou by a fair margin.
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Eric Bossi, 247 Sports: “The opening created by Weber’s departure will be one of the most coveted jobs during the 2022 college coaching carousel. Make no mistake, the Kansas State job is an excellent one. They have history, resources, and a strong fanbase. Athletic director Gene Taylor will have many qualified candidates showing interest, providing a real opportunity to hire a terrific coach and rebuild the program. The question is, who should he target? Naturally, many K-State fans are going to be clamoring for current Illinois coach Brad Underwood. He played and coached in Manhattan, is incredibly well liked there and has the Illini rolling after winning a share of the Big Ten regular season title. Given his current contract and how well things are going, it seems unlikely that Underwood will leave. But, there's no way this job search can be conducted without at least making a call, maybe even several of them, to Underwood and forcing him to say no.”
Measures that come to mind where Mizzou is in a better position.
Fanbase size
Donor size/resources
More $$$ in annual contributions from donors
Location to major metro areas
Columbia, MO > Manhattan, KS
More stable conference financially
By those measures, watch out for the return of Harvard and Yale.
Manhattan KS ranked #2 10 Best College Towns – 2019 - Livability
Why It’s a Great Place to Go to College: Manhattan is home to Kansas State University, which has elite academics, great sports teams and a friendly
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They most certainly could. They just had a record year in athletic donations (somewhere north of $50 Million), with some large one-time donations.
