If you can't look at this roster and understand how offensively flawed we are that's on you. Even when we were rolling through the non con many of us were talking about how this team would struggle to score once conference play starts.
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If you can't look at this roster and understand how offensively flawed we are that's on you. Even when we were rolling through the non con many of us were talking about how this team would struggle to score once conference play starts.
In a completely non-political way: **** that guy.
I saw it and I'm not smart. However, I am smart enough not to ***** about it.
I think the hybrid 'boxer briefs' should certainly be part of this conversation..
I truly hope all of our teams succeed in every way. I also wonder how long this coach’s decisions cannot be even questioned in any way because of who he knows and the vitriol towards his predecessor.
I am just reporting the non-con SoS as it is listed on Kenpom. There has to be some reason why it is ranked below #300. Looking at ISU's non-con, they had 4 top 60 games and the rest were garbage.
ISu is in the ncaa tourney field because the only teams in the nation that have as many Quad 1 wins as ISU's 7 are Kansas (9), Baylor and Wisconsin (8), and Marquette, Prudue and Auburn (7). But Creighton has dropped down to #71 in the NET. If they drop below #75 then that drops to a Quad 2 win for ISU. Better cheer for McDermott!
I will say I don't give a crap about how CW covers men's basketball. This is a free website and he's allowed to be as positive or negative as he wants to be.
With that said, I do think the "well, we were way better than we thought we'd early in the season" line of thinking is getting a bit old. It's been a pretty monumental collapse and while it's important to keep a sense of scope here I'm kind of over just acting like it's all forgiven because we had a nice 2 month run early. At some point the expectation is allowed to shift as you realize a team's potential.
With that said, I do think the "well, we were way better than we thought we'd early in the season" line of thinking is getting a bit old. It's been a pretty monumental collapse and while it's important to keep a sense of scope here I'm kind of over just acting like it's all forgiven because we had a nice 2 month run early. At some point the expectation is allowed to shift as you realize a team's potential.
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There were some pretty bad teams on the schedule that counteracted they few good teams they had.
How about Year 2 at a minimum given the fact we have 16 wins and 7 Quad 1 wins in a year when the coaches unanimously picked them to finish last in the preseason poll. Furthermore we have exceeded the win total this year of the last two seasons combined. Those seasons sucked. With 6 games to play we are still in Lunardi's projected NCAA tournament field.
The thing that bugs me more than blowing a 15 point lead in Hilton is the lack of accountability.
I didn’t hear the postgame but from the accounts given here, it’s more just players not working hard enough. Is the coach ever going to acknowledge that some of his decisions may not always be perfect? I guess I am used to coaches having their players’ backs instead of throwing them under the bus.
It would also be nice to be able to discuss the problems without being labeled as a hater, or bad fan, or Steve Prohm.
It would go a long way if we heard TJ say “I need to figure out a way to get these guys in the right places so we can win”.
I totally agree, and I think it speaks to the way he chose to construct this roster. Like it or not, Harris, JCL, Hinson and Bolton would have helped this team offensively. He chose to bring in a bunch of grinders, which is fine. I can understand the value in establishing a culture and bringing guys that fit what you are trying to do. But the fact of the matter is when that same team cannot score, you own some responsibility for how you've put the team together.
But yes, I totally agree. "Play harder" is not a strategy.
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To be honest, TJ opens the door for criticism. He’s the one talking about how the other team wants it more. About how the effort is terrible. About how they aren’t aggressive enough. Based on what we hear him say, we should not be happy blowing a 15 point lead.
roch will not criticize anything tj does. He’s just as blindly loyal to TJ as he was blindly disloyal to Steve. You just can’t take anything seriously from people like that because everything they say is biased and BS.
You need to understand how KenPom and NET work so you can see that ISU's non-con was not in fact garbage, but rather demonstrated a major point of stupidity in blindly following KenPom. There is almost no practical difference in a tourney or bubble team playing a bunch of teams in the 200-250 range vs. the 300-350 range. They all suck, and any good team is going to beat team all, especially since those will be almost exclusively at home. Yet that difference has a massive impact on SOS.
That is exactly why NET and the committee use the quads, to factor out something that can change SOS by a huge margin while having no actual impact to on the court results.
What kills me about "effort" and "they want it more" is:
A) I don't see that. I still see a team that plays very hard, and
B) That's just as much on the coaches as the players. I remember many people early on questioning how long we could sustain playing as hard as we did. I know a few commenters even commented on how hard we go in practice. Part of your job as a coach is to know how to gear down a bit too, as it's a very long season. Looking gassed late in games would appear to be preventable to me.
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