Big 12 Expansion (new thread)
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so this guy has an inside track on divisions for a conference that's 3 years out but CW doesn't have the same insight?
Three pods of 4. Play the 3 in your division, and 3/4 of each other division. You play everyone 3 out of 4 years, that's good connection. Take the two highest ranked pod winners for the CCG. Or go nuts, and take 3 winners and a wildcard and do 3 games in Jerryworld or something like that.
North - BYU, KSU, KU, ISU
East - UCF, Cincy, WV, Houston
South - OSU, TCU, Bay, TT
OR
Big8 - KSU, KU, ISU, OSU
SWAC - TT, BYU, Bay, TCU
BigEast - Hou, WV, Cincy, UCF
I guess I only switched BYU and OSU there, but whatever.
Is it better than 2 division of 6? Maybe not, but it is DIFFERENT, and that might be something you can sell.
North - BYU, KSU, KU, ISU
East - UCF, Cincy, WV, Houston
South - OSU, TCU, Bay, TT
OR
Big8 - KSU, KU, ISU, OSU
SWAC - TT, BYU, Bay, TCU
BigEast - Hou, WV, Cincy, UCF
I guess I only switched BYU and OSU there, but whatever.
Is it better than 2 division of 6? Maybe not, but it is DIFFERENT, and that might be something you can sell.
Not bad. Would mean less recruiting opportunity in TX but a games every other year in FL/OH will be appreciated by Campbell's staff.
I prefer No divisions, but if the new Big Xii is going to go to Divisions, I like this configuration for ISU!
We should do rivalry week in the New Big 12 as well.
- KSU vs ISU - Farmageddon
- Cincy vs WVU - semi-natural border rivalry
- Baylor vs TCU - Revivalry
- Okie St vs TTU - proximity
- UCF vs Houston - AAC history
- leaves BYU and KU but they could potentially do non-con games then ala Florida/FSU and UGA/GaTech
- KSU vs ISU - Farmageddon
- Cincy vs WVU - semi-natural border rivalry
- Baylor vs TCU - Revivalry
- Okie St vs TTU - proximity
- UCF vs Houston - AAC history
- leaves BYU and KU but they could potentially do non-con games then ala Florida/FSU and UGA/GaTech
If the Holy War(Utah/BYU) and the Boarder War(KU/Mizzou) could be permanent fixtures for rivalry week, that would be awesome!
Also, petition to name UCF v. Houston something NASA/space related. The Apollo Cup?
Border war is renewed for 4 of the seasons thru 2032 Dates are set but imagine those can be changed?
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BYU is independent so they have way more options
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Hell yes, then make UCF go back to using the Citronaut as their mascot lol
I'd kick Baylor out for a Blockbuster membership and some pocket lint.
I love the idea of these games being permanent rivalry week fixtures, maybe with a rough rotation of one getting played on Black Friday and the other six the next day every year.
ISU vs. KSU
TCU vs. BU
WVU vs. UC
Tech vs. OSU
Houston vs. UCF
BYU vs. Utah
KU vs. Mizzou
ISU vs. KSU
TCU vs. BU
WVU vs. UC
Tech vs. OSU
Houston vs. UCF
BYU vs. Utah
KU vs. Mizzou
Hoggins, How would 4 3-team pods work in a 9 game conference schedule again? I see that playing 3 teams in a pod that rotates every year sounds good. But the problem would be for atleast one of the 4 rotating years, ISU for example, would get their own pod and play KSU, KU, then who? Would have to play one team from an unplayed pod (can't play themselves).
In that case or year they would just be assigned to play another team from the 'unplayed' pod? That sounds a little more complicated I suppose, but could be done. Just wouldn't be as easy as you say.
Does that make any sense, my question?
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KidSilverhair
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I have no insight on your question, but … personally, I don’t like pods. They just cause different problems, like this one.
The real problem is conferences expanding to numbers that are unwieldy. Conferences, to me, should have some commonality, some unified purpose - like playing each other in sports contests. When you have a setup like the SEC where you see a team from the other division at your place only once EVERY TWELVE YEARS, that’s just not the way conferences should work.
So once you get to 14+ members, my preference would be to simply accept the problem and buy into it. Two divisions, who play within their division only (perhaps one cross-division rivalry game, if that exists) and that’s it. Division champs meet in the CCG. If your conference is so big that it’s basically just two separate conferences with a loose scheduling agreement, then admit it. Don’t go all B1G where a West team like Iowa can avoid Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State for multiple seasons while other teams in their division have to play them. Screw unbalanced schedules.
So that’s my opinion, for what it’s worth, which ain’t much. The Big 12 round robin is awesome, but I realize the economic realities mean that has to go away.
