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except for the fact he's well aware of the expectations at LSU. Where at Baylor he can get paid, maybe set himself as a power broker of a new conference and is biggest rival is .... Okie State? Us? TCU?


Or go somewhere that has twice now filed national champion head coaches. Yes, make a lot of money and Saban is older but still have to play A&M, Alabama every year at least determining on how the new SEC shakes out.


It makes sense he's on the list if for no other reason than the other people are getting insane contracts / extensions. Franklin for 10 years, Mel Tucker at over 9 mill per season.
















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Billy Napier IMO will take either Florida or LSU.
Jamey Chadwell could take one but he might not quite be a big enough fish.
Bill Clark at UAB would honestly be my coach of choice if I were hiring in SEC or ACC territory. The job he's done at UAB is incredible.


USC or Washington... IDK. Norvell out at Nevada might seem a logical fit for Washington.
THESE GUYS DO NOT THINK LIKE THAT
 
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except for the fact he's well aware of the expectations at LSU. Where at Baylor he can get paid, maybe set himself as a power broker of a new conference and is biggest rival is .... Okie State? Us? TCU?


Or go somewhere that has twice now filed national champion head coaches. Yes, make a lot of money and Saban is older but still have to play A&M, Alabama every year at least determining on how the new SEC shakes out.


It makes sense he's on the list if for no other reason than the other people are getting insane contracts / extensions. Franklin for 10 years, Mel Tucker at over 9 mill per season.
















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Billy Napier IMO will take either Florida or LSU.
Jamey Chadwell could take one but he might not quite be a big enough fish.
Bill Clark at UAB would honestly be my coach of choice if I were hiring in SEC or ACC territory. The job he's done at UAB is incredible.


USC or Washington... IDK. Norvell out at Nevada might seem a logical fit for Washington.
We have years and years of examples that coaches do not think like that, with the very rare exception...
 

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except for the fact he's well aware of the expectations at LSU. Where at Baylor he can get paid, maybe set himself as a power broker of a new conference and is biggest rival is .... Okie State? Us? TCU?


Or go somewhere that has twice now filed national champion head coaches. Yes, make a lot of money and Saban is older but still have to play A&M, Alabama every year at least determining on how the new SEC shakes out.


It makes sense he's on the list if for no other reason than the other people are getting insane contracts / extensions. Franklin for 10 years, Mel Tucker at over 9 mill per season.
















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Billy Napier IMO will take either Florida or LSU.
Jamey Chadwell could take one but he might not quite be a big enough fish.
Bill Clark at UAB would honestly be my coach of choice if I were hiring in SEC or ACC territory. The job he's done at UAB is incredible.


USC or Washington... IDK. Norvell out at Nevada might seem a logical fit for Washington.
Is his goal to win a national championship or just have a well paid job? Aranda came to Baylor from LSU, he knows what the conference is like, and also understands the last two coaches, that were average at best, won national championships there.

LSU is the top of the food chain, a school like Baylor will never be able to hit those heights and sustain it. He like Campbell are in the cat bird seat and can choose their own path.

Stay and be safe or look to win championships, it up to them and their families to decide.
 

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Is his goal to win a national championship or just have a well paid job? Aranda came to Baylor from LSU, he knows what the conference is like, and also understands the last two coaches, that were average at best, won national championships there.

LSU is the top of the food chain, a school like Baylor will never be able to hit those heights and sustain it. He like Campbell are in the cat bird seat and can choose their own path.

Stay and be safe or look to win championships, it up to them and their families to decide.
He can win a national championship at Baylor. Basketball has. And arguably basketball has more blockers and is reliant on just one game. Cincy is in the running for a play off spot. Michigan State, Washington, have made appearances (and been crushed, yes) but Baylor could in theory do the same in football....

as for sustaining it... you are most likely right that it would difficult to do but its also proven difficult to do at LSU
 

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He can win a national championship at Baylor. Basketball has. And arguably basketball has more blockers and is reliant on just one game. Cincy is in the running for a play off spot. Michigan State, Washington, have made appearances (and been crushed, yes) but Baylor could in theory do the same in football....

as for sustaining it... you are most likely right that it would difficult to do but it's also proven difficult to do at LSU
No, he can't, Baylor at best is the third choice for the talent in Texas, behind both UT and aTm, so a school like Baylor will never get enough 4- and 5-star recruits to win two games in the playoff against teams like Ohio St, Alabama, Clemson, Georgia and rest of them. But at a school like LSU, he can get those recruits to match up with them.

Comparing basketball teams to football teams is crazy, in BB you need 2 or 3 stud players, in football you need 3 times that amount. How many games has MSC, Washington won in the playoff? The answer would be zero, both were crushed, just like Cincinnati would be, those teams' goals should be making the playoff, because none have a chance on winning it.

The difference between teams making the playoff and winning the championship is larger than winning the conference and getting into the playoff. In any given year there are at most 3 to 5 teams with enough talent to win it all, everyone else is just hoping to make it into the playoff.
 

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No, he can't, Baylor at best is the third choice for the talent in Texas, behind both UT and aTm, so a school like Baylor will never get enough 4- and 5-star recruits to win two games in the playoff against teams like Ohio St, Alabama, Clemson, Georgia and rest of them. But at a school like LSU, he can get those recruits to match up with them.

Comparing basketball teams to football teams is crazy, in BB you need 2 or 3 stud players, in football you need 3 times that amount. How many games has MSC, Washington won in the playoff? The answer would be zero, both were crushed, just like Cincinnati would be, those teams' goals should be making the playoff, because none have a chance on winning it.

The difference between teams making the playoff and winning the championship is larger than winning the conference and getting into the playoff. In any given year there are at most 3 to 5 teams with enough talent to win it all, everyone else is just hoping to make it into the playoff.
To a point, true. Its not a great comparison. But its also not just about stars.
And Coach O, Chizik and Ron Zook would all still be employed.. You have to be able to coach. You have to be able to coach as well.

Using 247 rankings -

Florida - ranked 12th, fired their coach
USC - ranked 7th, fired their coach
LSU - ranked 3rd, fired their coach


Not to mention as the field expands and it will - some of these teams you mentioned will simply take each other out. Does it make it easier for Baylor to take on A&M as opposed to Alabama? Maybe? Or a auburn or USC? Not to mention... there's always an element of the unknown.

If Baylor wins the turnover margin 3-0 and has a defensive TD and special teams TD... you never know. Is that a sustainable blue print for success? Heck no. But if you into the dance, and something weird happens - that's all you need for a miracle
 

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I am expecting USC and LSU to get in a bidding war over Aranda. He has connections at both universities. CMC will take ISU to its next chapter of “Football after the legends”.
 
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To a point, true. Its not a great comparison. But its also not just about stars.
And Coach O, Chizik and Ron Zook would all still be employed.. You have to be able to coach. You have to be able to coach as well.

Using 247 rankings -

Florida - ranked 12th, fired their coach
USC - ranked 7th, fired their coach
LSU - ranked 3rd, fired their coach


Not to mention as the field expands and it will - some of these teams you mentioned will simply take each other out. Does it make it easier for Baylor to take on A&M as opposed to Alabama? Maybe? Or a auburn or USC? Not to mention... there's always an element of the unknown.

If Baylor wins the turnover margin 3-0 and has a defensive TD and special teams TD... you never know. Is that a sustainable blue print for success? Heck no. But if you into the dance, and something weird happens - that's all you need for a miracle
You are changing your tune now, before it was getting the talent, now its coaching. Coach O won a national title at LSU and is a below average coach at best, that is how much talent is in that state, and they all want to play for LSU.

Baylor will never get enough talent on the field to win a title, when they were taking felons and had a Heisman trophy winning QB, they still were not one of the best four teams in the country.
The Baylor coach at LSU may be able to do that, he never will at Baylor.
 

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Aranda is staying at Baylor. As I wrote earlier, a former Les Miles's assistant would not get the job due to ongoing legal concerns.

Baylor football coach Dave Aranda plans to remain the program's coach after the Bears proposed a new contract to him, according to Sports Illustrated's Ross Dellenger. Yahoo Sports's Pete Thamel first reported the news.

Joel Klatt says today that LSU is down to CMC or Lincoln.
 

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You are changing your tune now, before it was getting the talent, now its coaching. Coach O won a national title at LSU and is a below average coach at best, that is how much talent is in that state, and they all want to play for LSU.

Baylor will never get enough talent on the field to win a title, when they were taking felons and had a Heisman trophy winning QB, they still were not one of the best four teams in the country.
The Baylor coach at LSU may be able to do that, he never will at Baylor.
What is the difference in LSU under Coach O in 2019 vs 2020 & 2021. It's having 2 great coordinators in Brady & Aranda.

LSU is a solid job and has access to tons of great recruits, but is it a better job than Bama, Florida, Georgia and A&M? Plus Kiffin has Mississippi set up to be a force in the SEC.

Whereas, Aranda can stay at Baylor and create the premier Big12 program. Baylor can get the best talent in Texas (Art Briles did). Plus Baylor is unique- a private school with enrollment around 20k. He has a unique product to sell.

Plus when the playoff expands to 12 teams, the dynamic of a handful of uber dominate football programs might stop.

Kids want immediate PT and a chance to play for championships. With a 12 team playoff- there will be 15-20 coaches who can sell that dream.
 

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Aranda is staying at Baylor. As I wrote earlier, a former Les Miles's assistant would not get the job due to ongoing legal concerns.

Baylor football coach Dave Aranda plans to remain the program's coach after the Bears proposed a new contract to him, according to Sports Illustrated's Ross Dellenger. Yahoo Sports's Pete Thamel first reported the news.

Joel Klatt says today that LSU is down to CMC or Lincoln.
Yawn. I’m sure LSU does think that…
 

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What is the difference in LSU under Coach O in 2019 vs 2020 & 2021. It's having 2 great coordinators in Brady & Aranda.

LSU is a solid job and has access to tons of great recruits, but is it a better job than Bama, Florida, Georgia and A&M? Plus Kiffin has Mississippi set up to be a force in the SEC.

Whereas, Aranda can stay at Baylor and create the premier Big12 program. Baylor can get the best talent in Texas (Art Briles did). Plus Baylor is unique- a private school with enrollment around 20k. He has a unique product to sell.

Plus when the playoff expands to 12 teams, the dynamic of a handful of uber dominate football programs might stop.

Kids want immediate PT and a chance to play for championships. With a 12 team playoff- there will be 15-20 coaches who can sell that dream.
No LSU is not a better job than Alabama or Georgia, but it has something neither of those schools have, there is not another P5 school in the state. It's a better job than the rest you mentioned by far.

Baylor will never get the best talent in Texas, those players will be going to UT and aTm to play in the SEC, not to Baylor to play in the Big 12. Briles was cheating like hell and looking the other way while his players were raping the co-eds, its all been well documented what was going on at Baylor under Briles.
 

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No LSU is not a better job than Alabama or Georgia, but it has something neither of those schools have, there is not another P5 school in the state. It's a better job than the rest you mentioned by far.

Baylor will never get the best talent in Texas, those players will be going to UT and aTm to play in the SEC, not to Baylor to play in the Big 12. Briles was cheating like hell and looking the other way while his players were raping the co-eds, its all been well documented what was going on at Baylor under Briles.
Eh, at worst LSU as a job is on the same level as Georgia. The only advantage Georgia has is that they are in the East. But if Florida ever hires the right coach, that advantage won't matter.
 
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No, he can't, Baylor at best is the third choice for the talent in Texas, behind both UT and aTm, so a school like Baylor will never get enough 4- and 5-star recruits to win two games in the playoff against teams like Ohio St, Alabama, Clemson, Georgia and rest of them. But at a school like LSU, he can get those recruits to match up with them.

Comparing basketball teams to football teams is crazy, in BB you need 2 or 3 stud players, in football you need 3 times that amount. How many games has MSC, Washington won in the playoff? The answer would be zero, both were crushed, just like Cincinnati would be, those teams' goals should be making the playoff, because none have a chance on winning it.

The difference between teams making the playoff and winning the championship is larger than winning the conference and getting into the playoff. In any given year there are at most 3 to 5 teams with enough talent to win it all, everyone else is just hoping to make it into the playoff.

Baylor could win a National title. Did everyone forget that they weee constantly a top ten team for about 7 years and got beat or they would have been in the playoffs? LSU would be a much easier route but it’s very possible for Baylor to win a title.
 
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