Monday Night with a Teacher

[BillBrasky4Cy]

I don't teach but I've coached a handful of my kids teams. It's not a good feeling when you realize a kid legitimately just does not give a **** what you say. At risk of sounding all "back in the good ol' days", I can't imagine a young Clonefan32, or really anyone I knew for that matter, being so brazenly defiant. But at some point things shifted with kids defiance increasing and parents desire to do anything more than defend their child decreasing.

Man I hear ya. I've helped coach various youth sports and I hate to say it but WAY too many kids are flat out uncoachable. What's even more frustrating is when you see a kids parent just turn their head and pretend that they don't see their kid acting like a complete bastard. It's hard to get the kid to care if the parents don't.

 

[Clonefan32]

Man I hear ya. I've helped coach various youth sports and I hate to say it but WAY too many kids are flat out uncoachable. What's even more frustrating is when you see a kids parent just turn their head and pretend that they don't see their kid acting like a complete bastard. It's hard to get the kid to care if the parents don't.

I was actually just getting ready to type that. I think that's my biggest pet peeve. You obviously see your child acting awful over here, how about you come over and help me out? But no, that hour of practice is precious catch up on Facebook and Tik Tok time for that parent, so they'll just pretend they don't notice.

 

[khardbored]

The crowbar thing sounds like the devious licks tiktok trend. Kids at my daughter's school stained the girls bathroom with red koolaid cause they wanted to make it look like a girl apparently exploded with her period. Several were suspended

My sister teaches at a Middle School in another state. She states that it became a cool thing to rip the soap dispensers off the wall in the bathrooms and film yourself doing it, then post it on TikTok. It got so bad they eventually locked all the bathrooms except 1 boys and 2 girls per building, and those are monitored at all times by an employee who stands outside and writes down the name of the person going in the bathroom, as well as when they went in and went out.

 

[Gunnerclone]

The crowbar thing sounds like the devious licks tiktok trend. Kids at my daughter's school stained the girls bathroom with red koolaid cause they wanted to make it look like a girl apparently exploded with her period. Several were suspended

Okay that’s pretty funny if they came up with it themselves.

 

[KnappShack]

My sister teaches at a Middle School in another state. She states that it became a cool thing to rip the soap dispensers off the wall in the bathrooms and film yourself doing it, then post it on TikTok. It got so bad they eventually locked all the bathrooms except 1 boys and 2 girls per building, and those are monitored at all times by an employee who stands outside and writes down the name of the person going in the bathroom, as well as when they went in and went out.

Back in the day when America was great and whatnot the school took bathroom stalls away. So any kid who had to take a dump did it in front of God and country

I have to think the **** to kid ratio was amazingly low.

When I was in Middle School our class drove multiple teachers out of the profession. So I'm always pretty skeptical that everything is getting worse.

 

[Dirt Boy 2]

My wife is an elementary teacher. During our evening conversations, I get to hear about her day which usually centers around kids in school. Most nights it varies, but lately Monday nights have been a lot of examples of deprogramming kids from their weekend excesses, especially negotiating.

I don't know exactly what happens at home with these kids, and it isn't every kid, but there must be a lot of negotiating at home. I can only imagine that maybe parents say its bedtime and the kids negotiate to stay up later, or maybe push back on what is for supper, or maybe don't want to do chores, or when to get up in the morning, or want a snack before dinner, or... but - holy cow - Mondays for her end up being a lot of retraining kids on the expectations of being in a class room with a few 'because I said so' sprinkled in just to keep the classroom on track.

Not just teachers. I think routine is great for kids. Change in any routine can really throw them. My stay at home wife notices our toddler acts out way more while I’m home all day on the weekends. He just needs to try and see if his boundaries are different.
Sent the toddler to wife’s sisters family for a week while we were expecting our daughter. I felt as if I spent the next two months correcting him for the bad habits he picked up from their youngest who is a 10 year old who tends to act as if he is half that age. Still deal with them from time to time 3 months later.

 

[ruxCYtable]

Old school catholic education was were it was at. Let the nuns slap you around a little bit and learn some real discipline.

I've said before, only half-joking, teachers/principals need to be able to beat the **** out of kids again. My principal in elementary had a paddle mounted on his wall with notches in it and we were scared to death of that ******. Schools need to get back to telling parents and kids this is how it is and if you don't like it go somewhere else. The coddling has gotten completely out of control. My next door neighbor is a HS principal. He's caught kids red-handed doing **** and the parents will come in and look him right in the eye and tell him they didn't do it.

 

[BryceC]

The crowbar thing sounds like the devious licks tiktok trend. Kids at my daughter's school stained the girls bathroom with red koolaid cause they wanted to make it look like a girl apparently exploded with her period. Several were suspended

My kids aren't in middle school yet but apparently stuff like this has been going on in Ankeny middle school too, to the point where they have to get bathroom passes or teachers need to go with a group. I couldn't be an educator because I couldn't deal with that stuff.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Back in the day when America was great and whatnot the school took bathroom stalls away. So any kid who had to take a dump did it in front of God and country

I have to think the **** to kid ratio was amazingly low.

When I was in Middle School our class drove multiple teachers out of the profession. So I'm always pretty skeptical that everything is getting worse.

Oh man, that gives me some major Boys State Camp Dodge latrine flashbacks. Nothing like sitting 4 wide and making mud.

 

[Cyched]

I've said before, only half-joking, teachers/principals need to be able to beat the **** out of kids again. My principal in elementary had a paddle mounted on his wall with notches in it and we were scared to death of that ******. Schools need to get back to telling parents and kids this is how it is and if you don't like it go somewhere else. The coddling has gotten completely out of control. My next door neighbor is a HS principal. He's caught kids red-handed doing **** and the parents will come in and look him right in the eye and tell him they didn't do it.

Not endorsing the paddling, but it is incredible how people refuse to think their kid could do anything wrong.

Teaching your kid that actions have consequences is a key lesson in making them a well rounded adult. They’re just setting them up for failure in the future.

 

[Jer]

I am sad that I had to google "devious licks".... and even more disappointed in the results I got vs hoped for.

 

[BryceC]

I've said before, only half-joking, teachers/principals need to be able to beat the **** out of kids again. My principal in elementary had a paddle mounted on his wall with notches in it and we were scared to death of that ******. Schools need to get back to telling parents and kids this is how it is and if you don't like it go somewhere else. The coddling has gotten completely out of control. My next door neighbor is a HS principal. He's caught kids red-handed doing **** and the parents will come in and look him right in the eye and tell him they didn't do it.

I'm 40, I work with a guy from Oklahoma who is my age that literally did get paddled in high school. He called it "gettin' swats" and basically everybody went through it at some point. I'm not for that, but I was absolutely shocked when he said it.

I think punishments are just way too lax. I think they should suspend a lot more kids, especially these suburban kids. Make their parents stay home from work and deal with it for a bit.

That said, my kids really haven't had to deal with much bullying or anything like that. The amount of bullying of some of the other kids when I was growing up in school was downright shameful and I regret not doing anything more for those kids.

When I was in Middle School our class drove multiple teachers out of the profession. So I'm always pretty skeptical that everything is getting worse.

Yeah, all kinds of stuff was going down when I was in school, people breaking into vending machines, egging the school, etc. I didn't do it but there was always something going on. My middle school keyboarding/computer teacher lost control of the class one year and from then on the poor bastard just had the lunatics running the asylum.

 

[Neptune78]

Old school catholic education was were it was at. Let the nuns slap you around a little bit and learn some real discipline.

And the last thing you would do is come home from school and whine about it.

 

[ISUTex]

My wife was a teacher associate for a few years at a middle school. The kids she would work with would improve throughout the week, but the weekend was like a reset button. All of their bad habits would return on Monday.

Teacher associates are some of the most underpaid workers out there. Some of the stuff they have to put up with would put a lot of people over the edge. The ones at my kid's school make $11 hr. No thanks.

 

[JM4CY]

And the last thing you would do is come home from school and whine about it.

Amen.

 

[AuH2O]

I was actually just getting ready to type that. I think that's my biggest pet peeve. You obviously see your child acting awful over here, how about you come over and help me out? But no, that hour of practice is precious catch up on Facebook and Tik Tok time for that parent, so they'll just pretend they don't notice.

I'm pretty lucky in that as my youngest is in 8th so I'm winding down something like 10 years of volunteer coaching, and I haven't experienced too many bad cases like that. There are a couple here and there, but most of those are kids you can work with.

I always sound like an old man ranting here, but I think a lot of the weekend problems with kids come with lack of time with parents. When both parents are working full-time and buy into this stupid "I have to take care of myself to be the best parent" ********, they have very little time actually interacting with their kids. Either through guilt or lack of energy to actually deal with their kids they don't to spend their limited time with their kids over a weekend disciplining them or taking away a planned fun activity.

People don't want to hear it, but you can't have two parents that are really into their careers working long hours and be highly effective parents. You can be almost superhuman with the time you have, but it simply takes a lot more time than you have available. It doesn't mean your kids won't turn out great, but that's taking a big chance. Actual parental bonding can't be a weekend job.

I can also assure people from experience, delaying or hindering careers to raise kids and actually spend lots of time with them is a decision parents will not regret. It's amazing how "poor" you can be and live a very happy life.

 

[JM4CY]

I've said before, only half-joking, teachers/principals need to be able to beat the **** out of kids again. My principal in elementary had a paddle mounted on his wall with notches in it and we were scared to death of that ******. Schools need to get back to telling parents and kids this is how it is and if you don't like it go somewhere else. The coddling has gotten completely out of control. My next door neighbor is a HS principal. He's caught kids red-handed doing **** and the parents will come in and look him right in the eye and tell him they didn't do it.

I know this word is toxic but it’s seriously a pandemic.

 

[Trice]

"Kids these days."
- every single middle-aged person since the dawn of time

 

[Jer]

As somebody that had his name permanently on the chalk board waiting for the 3 checkmarks behind it and a dedicated spot in the principal's office in K-4th grade, it's certainly a different world with things being organized, recorded, and competed against.

I can say vandalism and destruction of property were not even remotely on my radar, my hijinx were always safe... but always very creative. Although there were some with peanut butter, saran wrap, eggs, toilet paper, etc.

I'm not on Tik Tok, Facebook or any of that other **** so guessing a lot of it spreads there and kids obviously like challenges; stuff when I was young was less permanent. I do think a lot of it goes back to lack of parenting and discipline at home.

 

[madguy30]

I've said before, only half-joking, teachers/principals need to be able to beat the **** out of kids again. My principal in elementary had a paddle mounted on his wall with notches in it and we were scared to death of that ******. Schools need to get back to telling parents and kids this is how it is and if you don't like it go somewhere else. The coddling has gotten completely out of control. My next door neighbor is a HS principal. He's caught kids red-handed doing **** and the parents will come in and look him right in the eye and tell him they didn't do it.

I wouldn't go that far but teachers and employees should feel like they are backed up for expecting basics from kids.