He’s 43 and floundering at a semi big program. Neither young or up-and-coming.
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Report: T.J. Otzelberger headed for Iowa State
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Well, if this is true, and I think it’s likely that it is, I will absolutely support TJ and be hopeful.
I guess what disappoints me is the appearance or suggestion by this hire that after years of work and some success with Cyclone athletics, Iowa State is still not much of a destination that would attract coaches. McD was local. Fred had a history with the school. TJ has a history. Maybe Jamie sees that connection as a way to get a hometown discount. I appreciate JP’s fiscal responsibility, but it doesn’t yield a lot of excitement. On the other hand, Texas spends an inordinate amount on coaches with largely the same or less outcome as Iowa State, so I guess I prefer Jamie’s strategy.
I was wrong about Fred’s hire being a bad idea back in the day. I’m looking forward to being even more wrong about TJ’s hiring (hopefully).
I guess what disappoints me is the appearance or suggestion by this hire that after years of work and some success with Cyclone athletics, Iowa State is still not much of a destination that would attract coaches. McD was local. Fred had a history with the school. TJ has a history. Maybe Jamie sees that connection as a way to get a hometown discount. I appreciate JP’s fiscal responsibility, but it doesn’t yield a lot of excitement. On the other hand, Texas spends an inordinate amount on coaches with largely the same or less outcome as Iowa State, so I guess I prefer Jamie’s strategy.
I was wrong about Fred’s hire being a bad idea back in the day. I’m looking forward to being even more wrong about TJ’s hiring (hopefully).
Nobody can seriously argue that saying in the morning you're beginning a search for a new coach and hiring somebody that evening does not cast a cloud over the seriousness of the process. Maybe JP cannot control how information gets out in Las Vegas but he should have at least anticipated the possibility. It definitely makes JP look bad, and I'm a big fan of his tenure here.
And Hoiberg lost in the 1st round with even more talent. I think Hoiberg is a really coach, though.
It humors me watching people melt down over the “process”. That’s so public school education. No one cares about the result, you must respect the process!
Whats the average age posting in this thread? OMG people, the temper tantrums from some of you puts it around 12, maybe younger.
Well number one what you said is just flat out false. At SDSU there were some minor hiccups his first year but they got it going by the end of the year. The next two years were better. They won both the regular season and conference tournament in his second year there and the regular season his third year. Yeah they got upset in the conference tournament but as we’ve all seen sometimes an upset does happen. As long as it isn’t a pattern I wouldn’t worry.
Now at UNLV his second year was worse. I don’t really see that as a negative. As Chris said he is overhauling and rehabbing the culture out there. That is something overdue at UNLV and it will take time. You also have to factor in Covid this year. Covid is an excuse for everyone even Prohm. The question is how much does that buffer a teams struggles. 1 bad year out of 5 and it was already going to be a planned rebuilding year. I just can’t get overly concerned.
If this report turns out to be true I will be disappointed. Not because I think it the wrong decision but because it will appear we didn’t do a full search. I’ve said I think TJ is the best option but I think you at least needed to interview some people to see what they offer.
To be fair, Iowa State fans cheered when Creighton took McDermott off our hands and he's been great for them.
So much for what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. They must really want him gone.
JP just had to tell them that nobody in the entire country wants to hire your worthless coach and take him off your hands, but I will if you lower the buyout!!
And bingo, UNLV gives in and says yes please take him!!! Might have even paid us something to get rid of him.
No, I'm guessing the ones who already want him gone will be the first ones to want him fired when he loses a few games.
I don't understand why everyone thinks JP didn't do a full search.
First of all, pretty much everyone and their mother knew Prohm was getting fired... Like a month ago or more. What makes you think JP wasn't talking to candidates before??
Second of all... Some of you are pretty embarrassing.
Third of all, none of this is official yet.
Go Cyclones.
First of all, pretty much everyone and their mother knew Prohm was getting fired... Like a month ago or more. What makes you think JP wasn't talking to candidates before??
Second of all... Some of you are pretty embarrassing.
Third of all, none of this is official yet.
Go Cyclones.
Those words describe Prohm, too. But he simply couldn't coach.
Now, now. Let's give it time. If I know CF like I think I do, things will get better.
