Thad Matta has just been sitting retired for 4 years waiting for ISU to open again.
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Thad Matta has just been sitting retired for 4 years waiting for ISU to open again.
Rumor is JP had his choice after the NCAA tourney loss. Offered Prohm an extension with no raise, Prohm and his agent felt disrespected so reached out to Bama. Hoiberg got word and told JP he'd come back. Prohm came back to JP with a competing offer from Bama. Obviously, Prohm got the deal.
I think all knowledgeable fans would've considered the 2018-19 regular season a major disappointment, the Big 12 tourney really saved his a**.
Is this a positive or a negative for him?
It’s way too early to judge what TJ has done and the game by game nitpicking of UNLV’s season is stupid.
That's not how it all went down, at least with Fred anyways
IF this is true - wow, what a history changing event/decision. I was in the group of people that was not liking the trajectory under Prohm after the OSU tourney loss, but was willing to give it more time. When I saw the raise/extension, I was surprised and concerned it was not the best idea. Now, to hear that there may have been a 'fork in the road' that would have brought Fred back, it makes the decision so much worse.
True. But it’s fair to say he hasn’t proven much yet.
The problem I had with the pro TJ contingent in 2015 and you are going in that direction now, is that there was a great push to gloss over everything and try and convince everyone that TJ was the only answer and it was silly to question it. It was very much a look the other way kind of deal. I see a lot of excuses as to why he’s not having a good year but another candidate with another circumstance is dismissed.
I think you and the other people pushing TJ should not try and gloss over things. He may be the best choice. He may be very successful here. But no one knows. That’s ok. But don’t try and pretend he’s the end all be all.
If Iowa was hiring a guy with TJs resume, we’d be laughing at how far they’ve fallen.
TJ may very well be the answer. But people are going to be skeptical and that’s fine.
Paul Rhoads was an above average Iowa State football coach. He could never capitalize on the momentum in his early years. I think he got a little inflated after the first 2-3 years and became too stubborn (where have we seen that before...) and it clearly didn't end well but he certainly wasn't a total disaster. But I think he was Pollard's most WTF hire...most people, me included, had never even heard of him before he was hired. If you look at Pollard's candidate pools outside of him - GMAC, Chizik, Harbaugh, Brian Kelly, Campbell, Prohm, Underwood, Drew, he's been great at identifying good coaches. Unfortunately, he's hired 3 of the worst ones on that list. But almost all ADs with his tenure will miss on some of their hires.
I doubt its all true. But with Pollard's ego and his memory for remembering people who've went against him - I'm guessing he wasn't super pumped about a Hoiberg return.
Did Fred and Jamie split amicably ? Was there any bite to the rumors Fred was put off about travel accommodations, or recruiting travel budget ?
I guess it is time to come back and refute the ridiculous arguments against TJ.
I will first say that while TJ remains my top choice he isn't someone who I would say is the easy automatic choice. It should come through a thorough search and he should lay out his plans for Iowa State. My top three also include Smith (USU) and DeVries (Drake).
This idea that TJ is remotely on the same level as Prohm is just absolutely laughable. Prohm had very little resume before he was hired. He had one year of experience at an even FBS level program. He also had a weaker record as a head coach at Murray State than many give him credit for. He made the tournament one year while there in his first year. He had two NBA point guards while there which at that level wins you games. He also had no connection to the midwest.
TJ on the other hand has extensive P5 experience as an assistant. He is also midwest based in his recruiting. This lines up really well with our existing recruiting grounds. TJ coached three years at SDSU where he made the tournament 2/3 years and won the regular season the third year. Now at UNLV he got them to second place in the conference his first year. This year has not been very good, but since it is the outlier Covid can be a reasonable excuse for him.
So first off TJ has a significantly better resume than Prohm did when he was hired. Does TJ have flaws absolutely he does. He probably isn't the strongest X's and O's coach in the world. Part of his interview process is seeing how he builds out his staff. For him I think a former head coach that has the X's and O's talent would be good. Just like Fred did when he came here.
All of the other options have their own flaws. Smith's only P6 experience is a few years at Nebraska. DeVries I don't think would be willing to take the job and has only coached at Drake and Creighton. Some of the coaches with previous experience are probably to expensive and I'd question how much they would be into it at their age.
At the end of the day whoever we have is going to have flaws. Heck even Fred when he was here had plenty of flaws.
I will first say that while TJ remains my top choice he isn't someone who I would say is the easy automatic choice. It should come through a thorough search and he should lay out his plans for Iowa State. My top three also include Smith (USU) and DeVries (Drake).
This idea that TJ is remotely on the same level as Prohm is just absolutely laughable. Prohm had very little resume before he was hired. He had one year of experience at an even FBS level program. He also had a weaker record as a head coach at Murray State than many give him credit for. He made the tournament one year while there in his first year. He had two NBA point guards while there which at that level wins you games. He also had no connection to the midwest.
TJ on the other hand has extensive P5 experience as an assistant. He is also midwest based in his recruiting. This lines up really well with our existing recruiting grounds. TJ coached three years at SDSU where he made the tournament 2/3 years and won the regular season the third year. Now at UNLV he got them to second place in the conference his first year. This year has not been very good, but since it is the outlier Covid can be a reasonable excuse for him.
So first off TJ has a significantly better resume than Prohm did when he was hired. Does TJ have flaws absolutely he does. He probably isn't the strongest X's and O's coach in the world. Part of his interview process is seeing how he builds out his staff. For him I think a former head coach that has the X's and O's talent would be good. Just like Fred did when he came here.
All of the other options have their own flaws. Smith's only P6 experience is a few years at Nebraska. DeVries I don't think would be willing to take the job and has only coached at Drake and Creighton. Some of the coaches with previous experience are probably to expensive and I'd question how much they would be into it at their age.
At the end of the day whoever we have is going to have flaws. Heck even Fred when he was here had plenty of flaws.
Jamie and Fred still get along. There was some truth to the article Hines put out (Fred did want more resources) but a lot of it was exaggerated. They split on good terms and there was nothing Pollard could do to keep him when the Bulls came
How am I pushing TJ? I want the Mayor to come home. Anything less would be a disappointment for me personally.
Ill go with what I just heard Ryan Saunders. Ex NBA coach and only 35 yrs old
Using similar logic, we hired a better coach coming off Greg’s failed tenure than we did in 2015.
Prohm was the coach selected, not the best coach we could get. There are a myriad of other reasons, but hiring in March as opposed to May will help.
We agree on something !! ( but not sure if you're serious)
Fred is the only legitimately reasonable home run hire that could happen. Everything else will be a crap shoot.
Here’s what I think happens. JP let’s the tournament play out and tries to get the “new hotness” that comes out of it. Easy way out.
