End of January Update Coach Prohm

What to do with Coach Prohm

  • Fire Prohm now

    Votes: 77 19.8%
  • Fire Prohm at the end of the year

    Votes: 251 64.7%
  • Give Prohm one more year

    Votes: 52 13.4%
  • Prohm is doing a good job

    Votes: 8 2.1%

  • Total voters
    388
so what you’re saying is everyone should ignore the elephant in the room and pretend this is a team that can make the NCAA tournament, and wait until the season is over to bring out the pitchforks?

You’d have to have ever put your pitchforks away before you can get them back out.

And, this is the part that is the dumbest, if it’s so awful then find something else to do. If you are one of those people that seek out misery, get some counseling and get better
 
No you all get to group think with no push back.

you know, not every single moment in the basketball program in the last 6 years was all bad. But you all have yourselves so wound up with anti coach nonsense, you (metaphorical) can’t even bring yourselves to give credit for good wins and efforts. This is how you know it’s been personal. Because you ca
You’d have to have ever put your pitchforks away before you can get them back out.

And, this is the part that is the dumbest, if it’s so awful then find something else to do. If you are one of those people that seek out misery, get some counseling and get better

How did you spend that year in timeout?
 
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You’d have to have ever put your pitchforks away before you can get them back out.

And, this is the part that is the dumbest, if it’s so awful then find something else to do. If you are one of those people that seek out misery, get some counseling and get better
Kid, I just want a winning basketball program that makes the NCAA tournament regularly and doesn’t shave years off my life. It’s not that complex of a want...
 
Were you massively wrong about Steve Prohm and his ability to succeed at this program?

Why is it so personal for you? Serious question, you guys have made this so personal like you want him drawn and quartered.

there was a post from an old school former player here the other day which was pretty close to accurate.

Paraphrasing, this hasn’t worked out for him. And he will lose his job as a result. But he’ll be successful somewhere else.

the last two years have been unacceptable, and he’s the leader of the program. It all falls on him. From 2/3 of the way through his 4 th year, he has not performed.
 
Kid, I just want a winning basketball program that makes the NCAA tournament regularly and doesn’t shave years off my life. It’s not that complex of a want...

Its what all of us want. Quite frankly I don’t give a damn if it’s T.J, Craig Smith, Hoiberg, Chris Mooney, Steve Prohm, Medved or Joe Golding. If you finish in last or 9th in Year 3, 5 and 6 of your tenure then we should be moving in a different direction.
Hell I watched Steve Alford coach circles around T.J. two nights ago. I might even take him at this point.
 
See now you’re being all hate prohm again, of course you’ve also said you want to protect Fred’s legacy as well

These kids came to Ames Iowa from the south to play for this staff. They all had other options, and with Covid they will be able to go somewhere else and play right away.

with covid, they haven’t even had a chance to get to know Ames, to see if it’s a place they could fall in love with. Add in all the class and grace Iowa State fans are showing them and their coaches on social media, and tell me exactly why they would stay, if the next coach isn’t a sure thing for them?

No one Hates Prohm personally, he has been a fine ambassador for the school on and off the court, no scandals, no embarrassing material coming out about him. BUT, we also want the program to be successful. He took over a program that was loaded with talent, one that was a fashionable pick to make the final four, and pissed it down his leg.
Winning conference tournament championships are great, but we have gone from challenging for the upper half of the conference to 10th, 9th, and 10th the past 3 years, not just one weekend of great basketball.

I said before the start of the season, lets give the man this season to see if he can turn it around, here we are on Feb. 4th with 2 wins overall and none in the conference, its time to make a change. If none is made, then how does Pollard or anyone else expect fans to show up next season with the same coach on the bench.
The program is bigger than any coach, and it is without a doubt too big for Prohm.
 
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kids will move on when the change is made. They will make those decisions with their families after the season. It’s the nature of the business.

Kids will probably move on either way. It's the nature of college basketball now, but especially the nature of ISU under Prohm.

I'm not somebody that has bagged on Prohm from day one. I've frequently said I like it when the team does well because I want the kids and the staff to have success. I've frequently said that the highs we've had under him have been just fine, it's just that the lows are way too low.

There is an assistant coach on staff that must have kids around my age because I see him all the time at kids' sporting events on the weekends and he seems like an extremely nice man. It breaks my heart to think about how he might have to uproot a young family if he wants to continue coaching after this year.

Ultimately the problem isn't Fred Hoiberg, Steve Prohm, inbounds plays, or anything like that. The problem is losing. This program has done way too much of it in the last 4 years. The passion and the fun have been drained from it slowly like a vampire slowly milking it's victim. We can debate a million different things but that's a fact and the buck stops with Steve.
 
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Kid, I just want a winning basketball program that makes the NCAA tournament regularly and doesn’t shave years off my life. It’s not that complex of a want...

Spending hours every single day obsessing about a situation that won’t change for two months, is what is actually shaving years off your life. Go outside and get some fresh air
 
Spending hours every single day obsessing about a situation that won’t change for two months, is what is actually shaving years off your life. Go outside and get some fresh air

Today is not the day to be going outside I assure you.
 
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Why is it so personal for you? Serious question, you guys have made this so personal like you want him drawn and quartered.

there was a post from an old school former player here the other day which was pretty close to accurate.

Paraphrasing, this hasn’t worked out for him. And he will lose his job as a result. But he’ll be successful somewhere else.

the last two years have been unacceptable, and he’s the leader of the program. It all falls on him. From 2/3 of the way through his 4 th year, he has not performed.

You are right. You are absolutely the victim here. It’s not like you spent the better part of three years personally attacking me and other posters.
 
Spending hours every single day obsessing about a situation that won’t change for two months, is what is actually shaving years off your life. Go outside and get some fresh air
Spending hours every single day obsessing about fans being critical of a head coach of a program that hasn’t shown any signs of improvement in years is what’s actually shaving years off your life. Go outside and get some fresh air
 
No one Hates Prohm personally, he has been a fine ambassador for the school on and off the court, no scandals, no embarrassing material coming out about him. BUT, we also want the program to be successful. He took over a program that was loaded with talent, one that was a fashionable pick to make the final four, and pissed it down his leg.
Winning conference tournament championships are great, but we have gone from challenging for the upper half of the conference to 10th, 9th, and 10th the past 3 years, not just one weekend of great basketball.

I said before the start of the season, lets give the man this season to see if he can turn it around, here we are on Feb. 4th with 2 wins overall and none in the conference, its time to make a change. If none is made, then how does Pollard or anyone else expect fans to show up next season with the same coach on the bench.
The program is bigger than any coach, and it is without a doubt too big for Prohm.

Yeah there’s no question he’s going to lose his job. And he should, he hasn’t performed at a level needed to keep his job.

but I disagree about the feelings about Steve prohm on here. Read the vitriol, and it isn’t new. You can criticize his coaching, and it should be, but read some of the stuff written on here and other social media.

kids see it, families see it. It’s sad
 
There’s going to be a bunch of players transferring out even if we keep Prohm because they want to go to a better program. Bringing in a better coach probably increases the chances of some of the better guys staying.
 
Spending hours every single day obsessing about fans being critical of a head coach of a program that hasn’t shown any signs of improvement in years is what’s actually shaving years off your life. Go outside and get some fresh air

Oh , you don’t have anyone to spend time with. Sorry I understand now
 
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There’s going to be a bunch of players transferring out even if we keep Prohm because they want to go to a better program. Bringing in a better coach probably increases the chances of some of the better guys staying.
If they leave, they leave. When you're a sub-5-win team, your next coach is committing to a full rebuild no matter what. It could be 2 years before we even break much above .500 on a season, but that's part of the gig. Coaching changes bring fan engagement even if it's watching some losses for a while... Could we get lucky on both the hire and striking gold on players to be competitive right out of the gate? Maybe, but nobody is going to be expecting or counting on that. We need to make damn sure we do well on the hire, though.
 
Today is not the day to be going outside I assure you.

That’s right, you’re getting another storm up there.

Oh, and you were right about the life being sucked out of the program. You can have a bad year, as long as people can see potential success in the future. There is no way to sell hope at this point. And that’s ultimately why he has to lose his job.

he’s been given a fair opportunity and was unable to win enough games to justify keeping his job.

Hopefully, tj can come in here and right the ship.
 

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