***Official College Football Playoff Rankings***

[qwerty]

[put this in another thread to, but damn it, I just spent 2 hours looking all of this up so here it is again]

So, NY6 bowl setups. Guaranteed the top 9 are in (#10, #11 and #12 have been left out before but never #9).

G5 team will probably be in the top 12 this year so that does not "rob" a spot (unless both Cincy and CC lose and badly). Only twice has the G5 team been in top 12.

Only 4 times has a P5 team higher than 12 made it in,
2015: #16 Okie St. (were #17, no clue as TCU was #11)
2016: #14 Auburn (were #14)
2018: #15 Texas (were #14, lost CCG)
2019: #24 Virginia (were #23, I think there was some bowl contract requirement)

Only twice has a team in top 10 CFP fallen more than 3 spots in final poll.
2019: Utah was #5 going into PAC12 CCG, lost to #13 Oregon by 22, fell to #11 and was first team out.
2017: Auburn was #2 going into SEC CCG, lost to #6 Georgia by 21, fell to #7, still played NY6.
ALL other top 10 CFP teams going into CCG fell 3 spots or less no matter the score of the CCG.

If we get to #6 this week and can either win or just keep it close, we SHOULD fall no further than #9 and still be in a NY6 bowl. If we are #6 and Oklahoma is #9, we would probably just swap positions. Georgia will not be playing, Indiana (probably #11) is playing 2-4 Purdue so shouldn't rise more than 1 and still be behind us. If we get blown out, there is the committee bias that may put Indiana at #9 and us at #10 but even then, #10 has only been left out once.

Let's Just Win and remove any doubt!

 

[jdoggivjc]

The only way to test how equitable the Power 5 conferences are is to have the best representative from each in the national play off.

I understand there would be leagues against that, but the alternative is things like "eye test" which is subjective AF. You want to determine these things on the field, this is the most straight forward way to do it.

"Eye test" is a made up terminology for "picking the teams that we want regardless.

 

[theshadow]

Only 4 times has a P5 team higher than 12 made it in,
2015: #16 Okie St. (were #17, no clue as TCU was #11)
2016: #14 Auburn (were #14)
2018: #15 Texas (were #14, lost CCG)
2019: #24 Virginia (were #23, I think there was some bowl contract requirement)

Georgia will not be playing

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/two-big-xii-team-in-ny6-bowls.260450/post-7459361

All 4 of those schools got in contractually.

Oklahoma State got in on the Big 12's Sugar Bowl deal (and received the nod over a higher-ranked TCU due to head-to-head tiebreaker).
Auburn got in on the SEC's Sugar Bowl deal.
Texas got in on the Big 12's Sugar Bowl deal.
Virginia got in on the ACC's Orange Bowl deal.

Also, Georgia is playing Vanderbilt this Saturday.

 

[qwerty]

My prediction (for both CFP rankings and final outcome/CFP rankings):

#1 Alabama beats #10 Florida to remain #1

#2 Notre Dame loses to #3 Clemson and falls to #3

#3 Clemson beats #2 Notre Dame, goes to #2

#4 Ohio State beats #13 Northwestern, stays at #4

#5 Texas A&M doesn't play, falls to #6

#6 Iowa State beats #9 Oklahoma, climbs to #5

#7 Cincinnati beats #23 Tulsa, stays at #7 (chickenshits refused to play at Tulsa)

#8 Georgia beats 0-9 Vanderbilt, stays at #8

#9 Oklahoma loses to #6 Iowa State, falls to #12

#10 Florida loses to #1 Alabama, stays at #10

#11 Indiana beats 2-4 Purdue, climbs to #9

#12 Coastal Carolina beats #18 Louisiana, climbs to #11 (although I could easily see ULL winning this)

#13 Northwestern loses to #4 Ohio State, falls to #17

#14 USC loses to 3-1 Washington, falls to #20

#15 Iowa loses to 2-4 Michigan, falls to #19


So, the top 12 remain the same and all are taken in NY6 except #12 Oklahoma (because Big12 is always passed over). Washington will be the PAC12 NY6 participant. It would be nice if Cincy or Coastal would lose, I am certain they would fall more than Iowa State with a loss and all but ensure Iowa State remains in NY6 bowl, probably would allow Oklahoma into a NY6 bowl if one of them lose.

That puts 4 SEC teams, 2 ACC teams, 2 B1G, 2 G5, 1 Big12 and 1 PAC12. If Cincy or CC lose, than Oklahoma is the second Big12 team in. If Iowa State loses, Coastal Carolina is probably odd team out as lower G5 team.

 

[IASTATE07]

My prediction (for both CFP rankings and final outcome/CFP rankings):

#1 Alabama beats #10 Florida to remain #1

#2 Notre Dame loses to #3 Clemson and falls to #3

#3 Clemson beats #2 Notre Dame, goes to #2

#4 Ohio State beats #13 Northwestern, stays at #4

#5 Texas A&M doesn't play, falls to #6

#6 Iowa State beats #9 Oklahoma, climbs to #5

#7 Cincinnati beats #23 Tulsa, stays at #7 (chickenshits refused to play at Tulsa)

#8 Georgia beats 0-9 Vanderbilt, stays at #8

#9 Oklahoma loses to #6 Iowa State, falls to #12

#10 Florida loses to #1 Alabama, stays at #10

#11 Indiana beats 2-4 Purdue, climbs to #9

#12 Coastal Carolina beats #18 Louisiana, climbs to #11 (although I could easily see ULL winning this)

#13 Northwestern loses to #4 Ohio State, falls to #17

#14 USC loses to 3-1 Washington, falls to #20

#15 Iowa loses to 2-4 Michigan, falls to #19


So, the top 12 remain the same and all are taken in NY6 except #12 Oklahoma (because Big12 is always passed over). Washington will be the PAC12 NY6 participant. It would be nice if Cincy or Coastal would lose, I am certain they would fall more than Iowa State with a loss and all but ensure Iowa State remains in NY6 bowl, probably would allow Oklahoma into a NY6 bowl if one of them lose.

That puts 4 SEC teams, 2 ACC teams, 2 B1G, 2 G5, 1 Big12 and 1 PAC12. If Cincy or CC lose, than Oklahoma is the second Big12 team in. If Iowa State loses, Coastal Carolina is probably odd team out as lower G5 team.

If ND loses I think they fall to #4. Not because I think they should, but I don't think we're going to see a third match-up unless they both make it to the title game.

 

[qwerty]

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/two-big-xii-team-in-ny6-bowls.260450/post-7459361

All 4 of those schools got in contractually.

Oklahoma State got in on the Big 12's Sugar Bowl deal (and received the nod over a higher-ranked TCU due to head-to-head tiebreaker).
Auburn got in on the SEC's Sugar Bowl deal.
Texas got in on the Big 12's Sugar Bowl deal.
Virginia got in on the ACC's Orange Bowl deal.

Also, Georgia is playing Vanderbilt this Saturday.

Thanks for the info. That might impact this year if the Orange is contracted to take an ACC team and both ND and Clemson are in playoffs. Next highest team is probably UNC. SEC has plenty of teams that will be in to fulfill their quotas.

 

[BCClone]

"Eye test" is a made up terminology for "picking the teams that we want regardless.

Eye test is something you do with tinder isn’t it.

 

[theshadow]

Thanks for the info. That might impact this year if the Orange is contracted to take an ACC team and both ND and Clemson are in playoffs. Next highest team is probably UNC. SEC has plenty of teams that will be in to fulfill their quotas.

Setting up to be UNC vs A&M in Orange -- which hurts the at-large cutoff if UNC isn't top 12.

 

[AppleCornCy]

I’m wondering if TCU could sneak into the rankings this week. They have two Top 25 wins (completely forgot about them beating Texas) and there will likely be a couple teams dropping out from last week (Missouri & Colorado).

Would be nice but more likely they put in Buffalo or somebody like that.

 

[hawthorncourt]

My prediction (for both CFP rankings and final outcome/CFP rankings):

#1 Alabama beats #10 Florida to remain #1

#2 Notre Dame loses to #3 Clemson and falls to #3

#3 Clemson beats #2 Notre Dame, goes to #2

#4 Ohio State beats #13 Northwestern, stays at #4

#5 Texas A&M doesn't play, falls to #6

#6 Iowa State beats #9 Oklahoma, climbs to #5

#7 Cincinnati beats #23 Tulsa, stays at #7 (chickenshits refused to play at Tulsa)

#8 Georgia beats 0-9 Vanderbilt, stays at #8

#9 Oklahoma loses to #6 Iowa State, falls to #12

#10 Florida loses to #1 Alabama, stays at #10

#11 Indiana beats 2-4 Purdue, climbs to #9

#12 Coastal Carolina beats #18 Louisiana, climbs to #11 (although I could easily see ULL winning this)

#13 Northwestern loses to #4 Ohio State, falls to #17

#14 USC loses to 3-1 Washington, falls to #20

#15 Iowa loses to 2-4 Michigan, falls to #19


So, the top 12 remain the same and all are taken in NY6 except #12 Oklahoma (because Big12 is always passed over). Washington will be the PAC12 NY6 participant. It would be nice if Cincy or Coastal would lose, I am certain they would fall more than Iowa State with a loss and all but ensure Iowa State remains in NY6 bowl, probably would allow Oklahoma into a NY6 bowl if one of them lose.

That puts 4 SEC teams, 2 ACC teams, 2 B1G, 2 G5, 1 Big12 and 1 PAC12. If Cincy or CC lose, than Oklahoma is the second Big12 team in. If Iowa State loses, Coastal Carolina is probably odd team out as lower G5 team.

so all that typing and all you could have said was the tv owners and journalists that work for them, do a 3 card monte, and they get the 4 they want for the playoffs, the rest doesn't matter.

 

[HawaiiClone]

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Love that! Hope more coaches outside the B1G say the same things. This is an absolute joke with tOSU being ranked 4th with no resume whatsoever to back that up.

I am not an Ohio State fan, but their Indiana win was a good one.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

Is


I am not an Ohio State fan, but their Indiana win was a good one.

Why is Indiana good? They don’t have a single win over a team with a winning record

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

That's why 8 is so perfect.

Five champs 1 or two non champs in top 6 range, guarantee a spot for outside power 5.

16 is perfect. 11 conference winners and 5 at large. Committee would seed them and choose the final 5. First round at home. Second round at 4 of the 6 NY6. Semi Finals at the 2 remaining NY6. Championship rotates at the big stadiums like they do now. 10 game regular season 9 regular season and one OOC at the END of the season and scheduled a week in advance, which would entice big matchups just in case you need one of those at large spots. Could even do like a Big 12 Big 10 challenge or something.

That way everyone in the country knows what they have to do to win a national championship. Gets us big games. Creates drama on the fly. We don’t talk about the top 4 every random game because we’re more focused on divisional races and conference races. Cinderella factor but the power 5 basically get another home game. Max amount of games is 15 which is the same as now.

Who says no?

 

[cyclones500]

16 is perfect. 11 conference winners and 5 at large. Committee would seed them and choose the final 5. First round at home. Second round at 4 of the 6 NY6. Semi Finals at the 2 remaining NY6. Championship rotates at the big stadiums like they do now. 10 game regular season 9 regular season and one OOC at the END of the season and scheduled a week in advance, which would entice big matchups just in case you need one of those at large spots. Could even do like a Big 12 Big 10 challenge or something.

That way everyone in the country knows what they have to do to win a national championship. Gets us big games. Creates drama on the fly. We don’t talk about the top 4 every random game because we’re more focused on divisional races and conference races. Cinderella factor but the power 5 basically get another home game. Max amount of games is 15 which is the same as now.

Who says no?

Proposed format has strengths -- one detail to tweak, only 10 conferences now, not 11.

 

[MartyFine]

16 is perfect. 11 conference winners and 5 at large. Committee would seed them and choose the final 5. First round at home. Second round at 4 of the 6 NY6. Semi Finals at the 2 remaining NY6. Championship rotates at the big stadiums like they do now. 10 game regular season 9 regular season and one OOC at the END of the season and scheduled a week in advance, which would entice big matchups just in case you need one of those at large spots. Could even do like a Big 12 Big 10 challenge or something.

That way everyone in the country knows what they have to do to win a national championship. Gets us big games. Creates drama on the fly. We don’t talk about the top 4 every random game because we’re more focused on divisional races and conference races. Cinderella factor but the power 5 basically get another home game. Max amount of games is 15 which is the same as now.

Who says no?

Want 28. With top 4 getting first round bye. The TV revenue this would generate blows the mind.

 

[IASTATE07]

I think 16 is too many teams to crown a national champ. I would go with 6 or 8 teams.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

I think 16 is too many teams to crown a national champ. I would go with 6 or 8 teams.

FBS is the only sport in the world that crowns a champion without a true playoff format. Even the other divisions in ncaa football have 24-28 team playoffs.

Theres 130+ teams in this and no one knows what they have to do to win the whole thing.

 

[IASTATE07]

FBS is the only sport in the world that crowns a champion without a true playoff format. Even the other divisions in ncaa football have 24-28 team playoffs.

Theres 130+ teams in this and no one knows what they have to do to win the whole thing.

Haha seems a bit dramatic. Zero reason to have all conference champs or 16 teams in a playoff.

 

[jctisu]

Haha seems a bit dramatic. Zero reason to have all conference champs or 16 teams in a playoff.

Yeah not big on the whole 16 or more. Sorry I don’t find that appealing and that’s just my opinion. I know others obviously feel different.

I am a 6 or 8-team playoff guy and cap it there. I guess you maybe (and it’s a big maybe) could get me to get on board with a 12-team playoff like the NFL has traditionally done so the top four would get a bye and a home game. 6 or 8 can get you every P5 champ in, and yes they should be in because they won on the field and now can prove without a shadow of a doubt they were good enough to win it all or not. But they will prove it ON THE FIELD. There just isn’t enough quality non-con games every year to truly differentiate which conferences could be better than others.

 

[Busch__Latte]

Football is a more physically demanding sport, as it stands now the 2 teams that make it to the championship game play 15 games. If the playoff expanded that is even more game unpaid college athletes have to play in. It just doesn't make sense unless you are only looking at the dollar signs.