There’s definitely no White Stripes without Jack White.
Or Meg White. You can hear the difference between a White Stripes song and a song by Jack White or any of his other bands. It's a very, um...distinctive sound on drums.
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There’s definitely no White Stripes without Jack White.
I don’t know, I think with REM it might be because he started over singing everything after their drummer left the band. His irritating voice then started to dominate. They were a more balanced band before that.
An example, somewhat, of The Opposite of the premise, when each member of original unit is indispensable to nearly equal degree: The Who.
Townshend: Songwriting obviously, attitude & theatrics
Daltrey: Some other wailer might have worked, but it's a siganture voice type & quality that's hard to reverse-engineer auditorially.
Moon: Nobody is Keith Moon
Entwistle: Seemingly the "replaceable" member, but it's untrue. Listen closely to the bass the next time you hear some Who songs.
I agree regarding "balance." I love the thread topic, but R.E.M./Stipe might not be the strongest example (sorry, @Angie --- please don't hate me). Buck's guitar style is a key part of the sound (especially in first few years it set a distinct core), as is Mike Mills' harmony blend with Stipe.
Or Meg White. You can hear the difference between a White Stripes song and a song by Jack White or any of his other bands. It's a very, um...distinctive sound on drums.
Wilco - That's Jeff Tweedy's band all the way.
The National - Hard to imagine any voice other than Matt Berninger singing one of their songs.
Alabama Shakes - Talented musicians, but Brittany Howard's voice drives that whole thing.
I'm trying to think of a non-singer for this but off the top of my head I'm coming up empty. Maybe John Frusciante for RHCP? I mean, they're still big without him but their work with him on guitar is their best.
Phil Collins of Genesis (in fact, unless you are a huge Genesis fan, you may not know if you are listening to a Phil Collins song or a Genesis song).
Pixies without Black Francis.
Weezer without Rivers.
But anyone could play like Meg. Very simple drum beats.
Even though he was surrounded by really good musicians, Soundgarden and Audioslave aren't the same without Chris Cornell.
Thom Yorke with Radiohead
But part of the mystique of the White Stripes was the nature of the relationship between the two? Siblings? Married? Yeah, the drumming is super basic but it wouldn't have been the same energy or vibe with some beginner's music class rando sitting up there on stage.
Good catch. Post 1975 - it was all Phil Collins - and, when he completed his solo projects while continuing to do work with Genesis, you couldn't really distinguish which source the song was from. BTW, I really like Genesis as well as a LOT of PC's stuff (especially on his earliest solo albums).If you're a huge Genesis fan (if they exist) you probably still miss Peter Gabriel...
I will fight you. There is no Who w/o The Ox.
I heard Eminence Front in the car the other day...listen to that sometime and just hone in on Entwistle's bass. It is so deep and vast, just remarkable. So much power. Thunder Fingers indeed.
Ha, I'm just playing...totally got you and agree.I'm in complete agree about The Ox -- my lead-in to his summary might have been misleading. I said "seemingly dispensable" when I meant more like "seemingly the least essential, on the surface."
Than we disagree completely. The Stripes was all Jack to me. Meg just sat there and drummed basic **** while he went crazy on guitar and keyboards.
I agree that a guy like David Byrne and his unique voice is the front porch of everyone's perception of the Talking Heads. And that this is the case with other bands like Malkmus with Pavement. Just not sure I agree that you could take Mills away and REM would be the same REM, or that you could take Iha away and Smashing Pumpkins would be the same Smashing Pumpkins, etc.